Posted on 03/20/2016 9:49:23 PM PDT by dennisw
“Trump doesn’t have to win the nomination; he doesn’t need to run third party.
He just has to start one.”
I would be grateful if you can clarify for me the distinction. If he started another one, wouldn’t it be to late for him to be on the ballot as that party??
Yes the gop-e do indeed appear to want to elect Hillary. Well, at least they’ve “outed” themselves at long last
Never, ever cross a billionaire with a dirty deal like this.
He can buy the house next to yours and turn it into a total eyesore. You might not need to sell this year, but when you do, you could take a huge hit. And it is perfectly legal.
If these delegates don’t know this already, they will before any votes are taken.
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Just one of a thousand ways a big guy can get back at a little guy who screwed him.
If Trump does not win the nomination I will probably write him in. But for me Job 1 is that the GOPee is going down.
That’s what I was thinking too. If people get an understanding of what is going on, and why, maybe things aren’t so bad after all.
If these pull some under-handed deception, Trump would call out these bastards by name and do his best to destroy their credibility and their careers. If anyone is paying attention to his positions, he constantly refers to the word “fair.” He hates cheats and liars.
Irish six-pack.
“GOP hear me on this! I’m voting for Donald Trump for President this November, as the R nominee or as a write in if I have to. If I have to do a write in vote because of dirty tricks at the convention, I’ll do so, but then I’m going to vote a straight Dem ticket on the rest of my ballot.
You might think Hillary will be easier for you to deal with than Donald Trump, but you’ll be singing a different tune when waves of Republicans are swept from office and the Democrats will have super majorities in both houses of the next congress. We’ll do more than stay home on election day, we’ll vote for your Democrat opponents.
Millions of Americans who have been reliable Republican voters have concluded that the leadership of both parties has been operating in the interests of Big Money and Big Business to the detriment of the middle class and we’ve had enough. If you insist on ruining what we consider our last chance to save this country to keep your place at the trough, then let’s get this party started.”
You may disagree with me in my methods, but I submit that the GOPe and every elected Republican official must be put on notice that them screwing Donald Trump out of the nomination will cost them and the party dearly.
Every House member and many Republican Senators have to stand for reelection this year. Trump voters have tremendous leverage if we promise to vote for the democrat against every Republican running for election in November if they defy us of our choice of Donald Trump for President.
You may not believe that the American people have any leverage in this, but many, many Republican elected officials stand to suffer career ending losses in their bid for reelection this November if the party doesn’t take us seriously and cheats the man millions of us voted for out of the nomination.
The party bosses may wish to ignore our voices but sooner or later, the Republican office holders running for reelection will hear about this and I believe they’ll take the promise seriously.
All the more important not to give that big guy 1001 ways to screw you - keep him off the ballot and well away from political as well as economic power.
Just operate within the rules, a concept which all constitutionalists on this forum will no doubt support.
NOT this time...
But what you are proposing here is a kind of suicide jihad against the structure of the Republican Party which will leave it in ruins, Trump out of office, Republicans out of office, conservatives out of office and Democrats running the country in the biggest comeback upset in political history. They will dominate the national legislature, they will appoint as they please to the court system, they will further their infestation of the bureaucracy, they will fund their NGOs and utterly dominate all our institutions.
We will enter an age of soft leftist tyranny which will only harden with time.
And this will be done in the name of a man who is not a conservative, not a Republican, not even a decent human being.
The problem is that the big guy has already won the hearts & minds of the voters. If you try to keep him off the ballot with dirty tricks, he will screw you. And you can't keep him off the ballot without dirty tricks.
I want to see Trump run against Hillary. All conventional wisdom goes out the window, and a completely new campaign style emerges. It might have serious flaws, but the first time an opponent sees it, the flaws are not apparent.
If we get Hillary after Obama, we will be serfs until the country is overrun by mohammedans. Our daughters will be concubines in the harems of the islamics and out sons will be eunuchs.
bkmk
And it really sticks in their craw.
If the Republican Party plays by the rules after Trump fails to get the requisite 1237 delegates votes, why is that dirty tricks? It is playing by the rules, by definition. We conservatives demand the government play by the rules, or is that a principle for thee and not for me?
These people oppose Trump not just because they are stinking establishment Republicans but because they do not believe the Trump will defeat Hillary with his 2 to 1 upside down negative over positive ratings and with the decided disadvantage with voters of color. If we have Hillary we all agree prospects for continued liberty in America are made dramatically unlikely. If we have a third-party candidacy, we should all agree that Hillary will be elected.
Right now, Trump is not the winner under the rules, under those rules he must become a majority not a minority candidate. Until he does so the enforcement of the rules is perfectly proper. The egotist is not exempt from the rules merely because he is a narcissist. He cannot claim protection of the bankruptcy rules when he wants them but then avoid application of the party rules which have coexisted with the Republican Party since time immemorial.
The delegates from my state were elected ages ago, so what exactly am I — a mere peon — supposed to do about this?
The Trump Ballot Security Project (TBSP) was formed when the main stream media reported dozens of voting irregularities in the Texas Republican primary. This ultimately totaled over 600 reports in at least six counties including Dallas County and Travis County. (NOTE:Even though @realDonaldTrump won delegates in Texas the @TedCruz- @georgepbush #RickPerry cabal is refusing to slate Trump supporters.)
In virtually every case votes cast for Donald J. Trump were tallied for Senator Marco Rubio. The TBSP established a Toll Free number to collect further reports of voter irregularities.
Almost immediately there were over 300 complaints from Oklahoma. Only a week later the Kansas and Maine Caucuses brought hundreds of more complaints including claims of double voting by supporters of Sen. Ted Cruz.
Now we are focused on Arizona, Utah, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and California. To the extent possible, we are attempting to place trained poll watchers in those counties with a recent history of voter fraud.
The Trump Ballot Security Project is committed to investigating all complaints of voter fraud. In the event a pattern can be determined, the seating of these delegations can and will be challenged before the Credentials committee of the Republican National Convention.
We have dispatched lawyers and election law experts to all of the states mentioned above to investigate and document voter fraud. NOTE The Trump campaign is not currently devoting resources to this important function.
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"Since time immemorial", my hairy purple donkey.
The rules were changed in 2012. And they were changed specifically to help establishment candidates. Trump has worked within those rules and is leading every other candidate. In fact, he may be to only one to meet the "8 state" rule.
Stealing the nomination from him is going to rile up a lot of us peasants.
When the RNC called me with a plea for money last Friday I told the hapless phone solicitor that they were getting nothing, nada, zip, zero from me until they started supporting Trump instead of conspiring against him. I gave him a full earful, hoping he would pass along my dissatisfaction to the upper echelons.
it’s worse than that. they’ll piss off so many Trump supporters that republican candidates up and down the ballot will suffer as well. it could very easily lead to democRATS sweeping back into power in the house and senate while also taking the WH. this could not only be the end of the GOP, but also set in motion other events much like what happened in Harper’s Ferry in 1859.
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