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All of this raises important questions.

First of them, Trump’s coalition of support appears to include many evangelicals. Do they therefore believe that God can work through Donald Trump, and more specifically, does it signal that they believe the end times are not imminent since presumably Donald Trump would not be the most logical choice for somebody who did hold that belief.

Second question, is this new development a sign that the widely held view of “either/or” evangelical Christian or Mormon beliefs about the end times is about to be replaced by a mutually agreeable version with the common theme being a belief that the second coming of Christ will take place soon and will directly involve America (in the sense that America would be the chosen land)?

A third question would then be, supposing this became a strong dynamic of the nomination process and either man then goes on to win, how does that leave things with regard to the general election? One can imagine that Hillary Clinton would be inclined to campaign against any sort of hints that the Republican nominee viewed his candidacy as a necessary condition of the end time prophecy. Many Democrats are liberal Catholics or other non-evangelical Christians and so a Mormon-Evangelical coalition of end time believers would be a strong rallying point.

And the most fascinating thing is that none of this in any way seems incompatible with Biblical prophecy or even with more specific Mormon beliefs.

We must recall what was said quite often in 2008 about the present incumbent who has now served seven years. That too is interesting in this context.

As someone who has long believed that the end times are quite likely to occur soon, I would still say that prayer for discernment is the only valid course of action here, and I don’t strongly favor one candidate over the other one even in view of this question. To the extent that God’s will comes into play in a presidential election, one would suppose that God wants a strong and prosperous United States and also one that is receptive to His word. Looking at the two candidates, it is by no means obvious which of the two is better qualified on those two points.

We may be seeing astonishing things and I think these issues should be openly discussed and given prayerful consideration.


141 posted on 03/20/2016 5:04:49 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (The trump-cruz shall sound and the dead shall be raised Unrepublican)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Your post gets my vote for the most reasoned of any on this thread, moving it from the ramblings of anti-Mormon fools, to finish with something to sink ones teeth into in regards the destiny of the United States and the forthcoming Presidential election. An election that seems critical in our history, in retaining the Republic, or sinking further into moral decay, that will likely result in chaos, anarchy, death and destruction, prior to the second coming of the Savior.

Far better I say that The Lamb of God return to a nation intent on reform, repentance, and a people with broken hearts and contrite spirits, brought about by reform and repentance, believing in Christ as their only hope and redeemer. Far better than to suffer the prophecies in scripture regarding the conditions of the last days that bode ill for mankind, before His triumphant return to be our King for a thousand years.

Thanks for your thoughts.


144 posted on 03/20/2016 6:10:14 AM PDT by wita
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To: Peter ODonnell

“To the extent that God’s will comes into play in a presidential election, one would suppose that God wants a strong and prosperous United States and also one that is receptive to His word.”
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Why not suppose instead that God will again impose adversity instead of prosperity in order to drive nations to seek him? Babylonian captivity, centuries enslaved in Egypt, and alternating evil kings with better kings are just a few of the ways God challenged the Israelites.

God has better plans for us than just earthly power and earthly wealth, which Americans are so proud of that they often don’t seek God.


200 posted on 03/21/2016 8:52:44 AM PDT by ChuteTheMall (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: Peter ODonnell
Do they therefore believe that God can work through Donald Trump...

God has used MANY folks of various types to get His will accomplished.

The OT is FULL of examples; if anyone cares to look.


Here's one that seems to support the Mormon claim of GOD the Father having a body...


Isaiah 45:1 New International Version
"This is what the LORD says to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him and to strip kings of their armor, to open doors before him so that gates will not be shut:

236 posted on 03/21/2016 12:37:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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