[Alberta's Child]

And yet this "third world colony" has people living in poverty who have the highest standard of living in the history of mankind.

Some fat slob in a family where nobody has held a job in four generations actually lives better in the U.S. today than the workers -- and even the captains of industry -- in that "industrial powerhouse" you describe. I don't know if that means we're better off today, but you really can't dispute any of this.

[central_va]

So is part of being a “movement Conservative” constantly cutting down Americans and telling them they are stupid and lazy? Or is the stateless globalist way of assuaging their guilty conscious?

[Pelham]

“Some fat slob in a family where nobody has held a job in four generations actually lives better in the U.S. today than the workers — and even the captains of industry — in that “industrial powerhouse” you describe. “

Yeah, that’s like saying that an American welfare case living in HUD housing is better off than a Roman emperor because he has color TV and air conditioning and Caesar didn’t. Contrary to your claim that argument is very definitely in dispute.