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1 posted on 03/11/2016 1:08:49 PM PST by dennisw
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Its not free trade that screwed Americans, its open borders. They aren’t the same. Protectionism doesn’t work. It never has. Open borders, combined with ever-increasing government, are what is undermining wages and turning the middle class into serfs.


2 posted on 03/11/2016 1:11:35 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Free trade is a two way street. If one party is not practicing free trade the other party gets screwed.


3 posted on 03/11/2016 1:14:13 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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What happened and is still happening is;

The Trump Effect

People saw, for the first time in their lives, a man stand and say things that they'd been thinking or had gotten into barroom fights over ... and the man had the money to not give a shit what ANY one thought about it

THIS was a man joe sixpack (no offense to OUR Joe Sixpack) could relate to and applaud

There is nothing magic about this or even worth explaining

WE Trumpsters instinctively know what happened and what is happening

The losers are the ones ALWAYS raising the question because they just can't believe someone ELSE would pee in their panties and make them WEAR them !

5 posted on 03/11/2016 1:16:44 PM PST by knarf
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Actually really enjoyed reading this. (Haven't made it all the way through yet though. lol.) I'll probably listen to the audio. But from the gist of it, I think he summarizes why Trump and even Cruz are resonating so strongly with not only Repubs but independents.

We've been getting massively screwed for a very long time (especially conservatives.) and by our own party/candidates and we've HAD it. And not only want to stop it but CHANGE it.

Interesting it comes from Pat Caddell. I think this summary of his appeals to many, many more Americans than just conservatives and independents. I think there are also a few libs out there that once they read this and think about it (if there are any that actually have not been completely brainwashed and OCCASIONALLY think for themselves), understand that we as Americans have lost a whole lot of jobs to some of these horrendous deals our countries have made along with horrendously spending our tax dollars and all the other thing mentioned in the article such as rampant illegal immigration.

6 posted on 03/11/2016 1:18:02 PM PST by GOP Poet
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“The American People Have Figured Out They’ve Been Screwed’ By Free Trade”

Finally...

There are a lot of real slow learners around these days.....

Voters had a chance to stop the job loss 24 years ago but they decided to elect a rapist and woman molester as president.

Ross Perot; GIANT SUCKING SOUND QUOTE, 1992:

“We have got to stop sending jobs overseas. It’s pretty simple: If you’re paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory workers and you can move your factory South of the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor,...have no health care — that’s the most expensive single element in making a car — have no environmental controls, no pollution controls and no retirement, and you don’t care about anything but making money, there will be a giant sucking sound going south.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls


7 posted on 03/11/2016 1:19:47 PM PST by Iron Munro (Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth -- Mike Tyson)
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Stop the Free Trade Agenda

STOP FREE TRADE AGENDA is a major new action project of The John Birch Society with the purpose of preserving our personal freedoms and national independence by stopping congressional approval of any new multilateral free trade agreements such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP). A vote to approve the TPP agreement is expected in late 2013; a vote on the TTIP agreement is expected in 2015. The global power elites view multilateral free trade agreements as one of their main vehicles for establishing, step by step, socialistic regional governments controlled by themselves as steppingstones toward a socialistic global government under the United Nations.




How the Free Trade Agenda Is Knocking Down America
-- The New American (PDF) Special Report
http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/TNA2917.pdf


The Special Report includes the following articles:

- The "Free Trade" Agenda Threatens Our Rights
- Global Merger: Piece by Piece
- The EU: Regionalization Trumps Sovereignty
- Trade Promises... and Trade Reality
- North American Union: From NAFTA to the NAU
- Fast-track: Enabler of the "Free Trade" Agenda
- Regional Scheme for the Pacific Rim
- EU/U.S. — Transatlantic Convergence

8 posted on 03/11/2016 1:20:57 PM PST by VitacoreVision
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Sadly, the few people who profit from trade like Nafta, TPP, Gatt will NEVER admit it’s bad and will do anything they can to keep promoting it and that’s why they promote people like Cruz, and that includes Rush Limbaugh who has never criticized any of these cheap labor agreements or anyone who pushes them.


9 posted on 03/11/2016 1:22:43 PM PST by AuntB (Trump right on Trade, Immigration, Terrorism,Economy, 2nd amend. Without them, we are lost.)
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So-called “free trade” certainly accounts for some of the economic pain and anger at the GOPe. But it doesn’t account for Cruz’s being in the top two. Because Cruz is very much a free trader.


12 posted on 03/11/2016 1:27:21 PM PST by DannyTN
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Many people are fed up with being told by wealthy powerful people, that we live in a global economy now.

They are frustrated to hear that they have to lose their good paying jobs, in order to honor the principle of free trade.

They are frustrated to hear that this global economy is good for all of us, when clearly it’s not good for those who lost the good paying blue collar jobs.

It’s hard to face losing decent jobs with good pay and benefits, to go work for minimum wage at Wal Mart or McDonald’s.


13 posted on 03/11/2016 1:28:04 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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One of the worst problems of so-called is free trade is trading with 3rd world nations that had little or nothing to trade. What did China have to sell to the world in the late 1970s when Deng Xiaoping came to the US seeking investment and technology?

Very little: a few crafts and agricultural products, but not much else. China only became a serious exporter after she traded her cheap labor for factories and jobs from the industrialized world. And the only American beneficiaries of that brand of “trade” have been the owners of US plants who might have improve their profit margin by moving to a cheap labor nation. The rest of US citizens experienced the lost factories and jobs and unsupported claims that the price of consumer goods were much cheaper.


16 posted on 03/11/2016 1:47:17 PM PST by Will88
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It’s not free trade bits government- enforced global cartelization. Free trade could still be a good thing but it requires honest governmental officials - Given the crooks in washington the mess we got is almost inevitable


20 posted on 03/11/2016 2:06:14 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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Free Trade: A few people get to sell some things overseas, but the majority of Americans lose their jobs otherwise.


21 posted on 03/11/2016 2:07:15 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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Trump’s greater success thus far to the primary electorate leaning toward populism, but saluted Cruz for “drawing his differences quite well” with Trump during Thursday’s encounter – a vitally important task for Cruz, as the once-crowded GOP primary moves into a two-candidate head-to-head finale.

What a lie...Cruz didn't point out any differences...He lied again and told the audience that Trump's position were in line with Hillary's positions when in fact Trump's positions are more conservative and more pro American than Cruz's...And of course Trump responded brilliantly each time 'without actually calling Cruz a liar'...

23 posted on 03/11/2016 2:16:46 PM PST by Iscool (Trump will Triumph)
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Clean out the whole Washington rat’s nest. End career politicians and those career staffers. Elect people who have real careers who want to serve the nation for a limited period of time. Ya know those real Patriots like Trump!


25 posted on 03/11/2016 2:28:40 PM PST by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis)
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Wrong. Free trade has offset some of the disastrous policies pushed by Republicans and Democrats alike — things like racial and sexual quotas, the destruction of the family, open borders, socialism, and environmental fanaticism. The American people will screw themselves if they allow Trump — or the Democrats — to start a trade war.


29 posted on 03/11/2016 2:46:08 PM PST by Socon-Econ
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the only americans screwed by free trade are the union members...

go back to your local and tell them you have failed once again to gain support...


32 posted on 03/11/2016 3:45:33 PM PST by joe fonebone (gay people do not bother me.... fags do...)
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Are there any trade agreements in which the U.S. isn’t schlonged?


33 posted on 03/11/2016 4:29:24 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk
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