Confusion follows Trump flip-flop on key immigration issue

Mt. Vernon Register-News ^ | March 10, 2016 | Byron York

[ConservingFreedom]

TRUMP - “The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration

So what WAS he talking about, if not H-1B, when he said in last week's debate: "I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position"? What's his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?

I can’t help you beyond providing his unedited position.

Which is no help - but thanks for trying.

[pierrem15]

Learn the facts.

I'm not sure Trump was referring to H1B's (which are temporary, with a maximum of six years).

I don't want -any- immigration until we get the current mess fixed (which would include working through the multi-year backlog of pending green card applications).

Still, allowing in the truly highly skilled (those with a PhD comparable to a US PhD) strikes me as much better than the wholesale American worker replacement programs known as H1B and H2B.

[pierrem15]

Cruz's response is so complex that it would either never be enacted; or, which is more likely, K Street would insert so many loopholes that it would amount to no change at all or even an easing of H1B restrictions.

After all, K Street wrote the existing law so that if the employer is found to have falsified the H1B application, the visa cannot be revoked if the H1B visa holder is paid a minimum of $65K.

The much simpler solution is to wipe the slate clean and start over with a completely new immigration act.

Actually, I wouldn't mind simply going back to the 1929 Act.

[ConservingFreedom]

Cruz's response is so complex

Doesn't look all that complex to me - and the real point is that he fully supports much tighter restrictions. (I'd also be on board with wiping the slate clean as you suggest.)

[CottonBall]

Cruz wanted to increase H1Bs by 500%. Trump wants to bring them in only where there is a need.

[CottonBall]

He already said they get back in line BEHIND those already there and have to meet whatever the requirements are.

You are pretending he never said that.

[ConservingFreedom]

Cruz wanted to increase H1Bs by 500%.

Not any more. From https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/:

Amend the H-1B visa program to fulfill its original purpose: Work with Congress to pass reform legislation for the H-1B visa program that will:

• Create an advanced degree requirement: Only individuals with advanced degrees in their respective fields may be brought to the United States with an H-1B visa. And preference will be given to those with advanced degrees from American universities.
• Create a "layoff cool-off" period for all H-1B visa applications: Companies must wait one or two years between laying off a worker and bringing in any H-1B foreign workers to ensure that the program is not used to displace American workers.
• Establish accreditation or recognition requirements for overseas schools: The recent lack of federal oversight of the H-1B visa program has fueled a cottage industry of diploma mills. Foreign academic institutions must meet minimum accreditation standards at least as stringent as those imposed on American universities in order to qualify for the advanced-degree requirement.
• Require sworn affidavits describing domestic hiring efforts: Companies will provide sworn statements and documentation that detail their efforts to hire Americans before requesting foreign workers through the H-1B visa program. Individuals who make false statements in these affidavits will be subject to perjury charges.
• Suspend companies from H-1B visa eligibility for failure to help foreign workers obtain green cards: Many companies misuse the H-1B visa program to train foreign workers that they intend to send back overseas to compete with America. The law must impose additional requirements on employers to pursue Legal Permanent Resident status on behalf of their H-1B visa-based foreign workers, or risk loss of access to the program.

"Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions Roll Out Antidote To Broken H-1B Program: American Jobs First Act" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371276/posts

"Ted Cruz Explains why His Position on H-1B Visas Has Changed" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3376485/posts

[combat_boots]

But it isn’t just the H1B program. There are a number of designations now. And the anchor babies resulting from them.

[dirtboy]

No, it wasn’t. Read up on the program’s actual requirements.

[DoodleDawg]

No, it wasn’t. Read up on the program’s actual requirements.

I have. What was the violation?

[CottonBall]

“So we have too many science (S) and math (M) folks - none of whom can do engineering or tech?”

Of course not.

Math courses are completely different than engineering courses. The different engineering disciplines aren’t interchangeable either. I have a BS in metallurgical engineering. Nobody would hire me to do electrical engineering. Nor would I want to even try.

I can’t believe you actually had to ask that. Would you go to an orthopedic surgeon if you had heart trouble?

[CottonBall]

Then Cruz flipped.

[ConservingFreedom]

From Trump's link: "Engineering has the highest rate at which graduates move into STEM occupations, but even here the supply is over 50% higher than the demand. IT, the industry most vocal about its inability to find enough workers, hires only two-thirds of each year’s graduating class of bachelor’s degree computer scientists. "

[dirtboy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/lawsuit-claims-disney-colluded-to-replace-us-workers-with-immigrants.html?_r=0

Employers are required to declare to the Department of Labor that hiring foreigners on the visas “will not adversely affect the working conditions of U.S. workers similarly employed.”

[ConservingFreedom]

Then Cruz flipped.

Still hasn't come close to Trump's taking three positions in 24 hours (before last week's debate, at the debate, and the next morning).

[Toespi]

Why is it when a Trump supporter is asked a question they get nasty? You can use Trumps dumbing down of the term but it is touchback, plain and simple.

[Pajamajan]

At the debate Trump said he would get rid of the EPA. In Iowa he promised to use the EPA to enforce higher Ethanol standards than what Obama's.

In Iowa he said lands in the West should be controlled by the Feds. In Nevada he said he knew nothing about it.

If anyone is actually trying to get informed about issues- The only consistent thing about Trump, is that he's inconsistent.

[Pajamajan]

enforce higher Ethanol standards than what Obama’s= enforce higher Ethanol standards than Obama’s.

[DoodleDawg]

Employers are required to declare to the Department of Labor that hiring foreigners on the visas “will not adversely affect the working conditions of U.S. workers similarly employed.”

Disney has outsourced the IT functions. Disney didn't hire the foreigners, they are employees of the outsourcing company. Disney is laying off its own people and not replacing them with anyone. And I'm sure the outsourcing company didn't displace any U.S. workers it might have had when it brought the H-1Bs in from India for the turnover. All nice and legal under the laws currently in place.

[amihow]

I am a hardliner on any type of immigration in mumbers too large even “Ph.D” workers.

These types tend to be intelligent and speak English. But they do not understand English or its nuances. They are dangerous in the medical profession and I speak from much personal experience.

No more. We need to educate our own