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A Disconcerting Tripwire – What Carly Fiorina Endorsing Ted Cruz Really Means…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | March 9, 2016 | Sundance

Posted on 03/09/2016 12:10:20 PM PST by M. Thatcher

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So let’s see Cruz has been a lifelong conservative, Trump has changed parties 5 times. Trump has flipped flopped on every major issue in the last 5 years, while being well into his 60’s.

But it is Cruz who is the secret GOPe plant?

The trumpanzees are eating too many bananas.


141 posted on 03/09/2016 2:06:32 PM PST by Leto
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To: VRWCarea51

You sleep well knowing that While Ted Cruz was fighting to uphold YOUR constitutional Rights,


Yes. I slept well while the Cruz Family made millions from sleazy Goldman Sachs. And gave basically nothing to charity. Ted Cruz is a self serving careerist. Nothing more and nothing less. That’s why he’s fine allying with Bishop Romney and now the corrupt Neil Bush. Thee is simply nothing principled or conservative about his campaign for POTUS.


142 posted on 03/09/2016 2:06:48 PM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: txhurl

Cruz has gone out of his way never to insult DT’s base.


False. Cruz is parroting Romney’s viscous lies about Trump. When you smear a persons candidate with a broad brush you smear his supports by association.


143 posted on 03/09/2016 2:11:14 PM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
I did not say he is perfect. He did in fact miss on a couple of votes, although I won't say they were the most important. If you want someone with a perfect voting record then you are not going to elect anyone, All off the candidates will misfire. Every single one.

But looking at his whole body of work. He is solid. The idea that the establishment wants him is a clown proposition. Just because they hate Trump more doesn't mean they have a love fest with Ted. It is well known they hate Cruz, but the establishment will sell what's left of their soul to beat Trump.

144 posted on 03/09/2016 2:15:18 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: bushwon; vette6387
Ted Cruz is the closest thing out there to Ronald Reagan. And even Reagan, in a far more educated country than we have now, had to pick a Bush for the VP slot to make it across the finish line. What he accomplished in those eight years hasn't even been completely undone by a radical anti-American POTUS. Yet.

So don't go suggesting that Ted Cruz is a sell-out until you can answer post #73. I'm willing to give Trump my vote if he's the nominee, but the gratuitous trashing of Ted Cruz, one of the dozen or so solid conservatives in the U.S. Senate needs to stop.

145 posted on 03/09/2016 2:17:24 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: vette6387

Ms. Fiorina’s comments on Islam and immigration are quite disturbing. Her comments are very much like those of Obama.


146 posted on 03/09/2016 2:19:17 PM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: VRWCarea51

No, he won two of 9. Most of the cases were not particularly groundbreaking.

Over nine trips to the Supreme Court, Cruz clearly lost four cases and won two. The other three rulings were less clear-cut. Five cases involved the death penalty. One dealt with Texas’ intense efforts to keep a calculator thief behind bars (not Cruz’s finest hour). Dretke v. Haley March 2, 2000 Michael Haley was sentenced to 14 years in prison for stealing a calculator from a Texas Wal-Mart even though the maximum was two years under state law. Haley later challenged his imprisonment, arguing that his original lawyer should have objected to the lengthy sentence. After lower courts found that Haley waited too long to object to the error, Haley appealed to the Supreme Court. Cruz essentially lost, the case was returned to the lower court who freed Mr Haley for time served.

Another was essentially a patent fight over a deep fat fryer.

Another case he was arguing for the Death penalty for mentally ill defendant. Panetti v. Quarterman April 18, 2007

Cruz’s most well-known case, involving convicted murderer José Medellín, reached the Supreme Court twice. Cruz ultimately won, allowing the state to execute Medellín despite an order from an international court and the urging of President George W. Bush to hold off so Medellín could receive a new hearing.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/ted-cruz-argued-before-the-us-supreme-court-nine-times-heres-what-happened/


147 posted on 03/09/2016 2:20:11 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: txhurl

‘Cruz has gone out of his way never to insult DT’s base.’

Not seeing that. Running dirty ads against a candidate alienates the supporters. For example, when Cruz claimed DT had made himself rich by using eminent domain. A, that was a lie. B, it alienated—you could say insulted if you like—me as a Trump supporter


148 posted on 03/09/2016 2:20:32 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: lodi90

Then explain why TC is DT’s supporters second choice at 3X the rate of vice-versa.


149 posted on 03/09/2016 2:20:45 PM PST by txhurl (Voted for Cruz, and another Bush, apparently!)
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To: manc; bushwon

Tread carefully.
Recognizing that someone you admire and looked up to may be playing you is a hard thing to do. It took me awhile.
I was on the Cruz bandwagon the day he announced and thought Trump was a joke the day he announced.
A few things before Trump jumped in had started doubts about Cruz, the cloture vote enabling TPA and the Corker bill, which stands the Constitution on its head.
The addition of Bushbots to the campaign is on top of all the Goldman Sachs/CFR/NorthAmerican Union revelations.

As the campaign has developed I listened to Trump and started to understand that he was serious about winning.
I watched as he pushed back on The Ministry of Propaganda successfully.
Personally the more I saw of Trump, the more I liked and the opposite is true for me about Cruz.


150 posted on 03/09/2016 2:22:26 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Fantasywriter

I’m not counting we political junkies who take gutshots whenever our candidates go idiot... I mean the regular voters.


151 posted on 03/09/2016 2:24:06 PM PST by txhurl (Voted for Cruz, and another Bush, apparently!)
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152 posted on 03/09/2016 2:25:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: txhurl

NY Values...Cruz trashed the whole state and by association when he expanded his remarks, NJ as well. That was while he was supping at the NYC trough, chowing down on Wall Street donations.
That was the also beginning of the end of my respect for him as an astute politician, a man of character and a President for all Americans.


153 posted on 03/09/2016 2:29:35 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: Vigilanteman

“.. but the gratuitous trashing of Ted Cruz, one of the dozen or so solid conservatives in the U.S. Senate needs to stop.”

There is absolutely nothing gratuitous about my comments regarding Ted Cruz. I started out being a supporter, but in the intervening timeframe, he’s done and said some very disturbing things, which have lead me to believe that he may well not really be who he claims to be. Sorry, but that’s how I see it, and I am not trashing him, just saying what I see in him. As for the Senate, given their record, and the fact that very few if any of the “conservatives” will stand up to the RINO “leadership,” leaves me to wonder about just exactly where they are as well.
As for GHWB as Reagan’s VP, my view is that he was the GOPe “price” for their support and he and his children have been working 24/7 ever since trying to undo what Reagan had started. This time, it cannot be a repeat performance. We have to slay the GOPe for once and for all!


154 posted on 03/09/2016 2:47:58 PM PST by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: txhurl

Mr Trump is not just going to have problems with the Cruz base, but also supporters of Bush, Rubio, Fiorina and Paul. If he can’t mend fences, it will take a lot of cross over democrats to make up the difference.

As with you, I intend to vote for whoever gets the nomination.


155 posted on 03/09/2016 2:50:18 PM PST by etcb
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To: Vigilanteman

Ted Cruz is the closest thing out there to Ronald Reagan. And even Reagan, in a far more educated country than we have now, had to pick a Bush for the VP slot to make it across the finish line. What he accomplished in those eight years hasn’t even been completely undone by a radical anti-American POTUS. Yet.

So don’t go suggesting that Ted Cruz is a sell-out until you can answer post #73. I’m willing to give Trump my vote if he’s the nominee, but the gratuitous trashing of Ted Cruz, one of the dozen or so solid conservatives in the U.S. Se


With all due respect FRiend, you have a right to YOUR OPINION...

I have a right to repost and discuss FACTS PRESENTED IN THE ARTICLE posted on this thread...It was not a “gratuitous trashing.” I have what I deem legitimate concerns about CRuz; just like I have some concerns about Trump.

This article presented FACTS about Cruz hiring nearly a dozen Bush campaign workers ....Is that a sell-out? You tell me.

Trump did not hire a dozen of Obama’s top strategists for his campaign. The article outlined Carly Fiorina’s globalist insider credentials and how Senator Cruz gave her $500,000 for her campaign (which FEC is looking into) and now she returned the favor thru an endorsement....This article does not outline the funding Ted received as a a Senate candidate from the Gay founder of PayPal nor his attempted support from Singer, a gay hedge fund manager which also concern me plenty!

So you are now saying that a Cruz/Bush ticket is OK because Reagan had Bush on his ticket??? Boy, that is logic I don’t follow.

Reagan was a great president, but he made some mistakes, and everyone pretty much agrees putting Bush on the ticket is one of them as Bush sought to immediately dismantle and disavow the Reagan agenda.

Sorry, I won’t vote for a Bush on any ticket.


156 posted on 03/09/2016 2:52:30 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (nd with Sheriff Joe, Phyllis Schlafly, Jerry Falwell Jr, Sarah Palin, Pat Robertson, Willie :))
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To: Jim Robinson

I was an early Cruz supporter who drifted over to Trump, surprising even myself.

What you wrote is truth, the muslim moratorium is what finally brought me over.

Some of what Cruz did to appeal to that demographic had the exact opposite effect on others.


157 posted on 03/09/2016 2:54:23 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: JayGalt

That’s right: neither side has to worry about respecting their candidate now. Let’s rumble.


158 posted on 03/09/2016 2:56:17 PM PST by txhurl (Voted for Cruz, and another Bush, apparently!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

No one is a bigger insider than Chris Christie.

Heck the dude is the head of the governors association!

Chris Christie is the very definition of an insider.


I don’t consider receiving the Christie endorsement equivalent to putting nearly a dozen Bush campaign workers (even Neil Bush) on the Cruz campaign staff. Also, Cruz gave Fiorina, a confirmed globalist and GOPe $500,000 in campaign money...Why? FEC wants to know as well.

Sorry FRiend, Cruz may have positioned himself as an outsider in the Senate, but prior to his Senate term and since his foray into the presidential arena, he did/ is doing some insider things...


159 posted on 03/09/2016 3:01:37 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (nd with Sheriff Joe, Phyllis Schlafly, Jerry Falwell Jr, Sarah Palin, Pat Robertson, Willie :))
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To: txhurl

Ok. But how recent is your data? Is it not possible that as the—for want of a better word—nasty, attacks on Trump proliferate, enthusiasm for Cruz as second choice could wane?


160 posted on 03/09/2016 3:05:10 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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