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Legal marijuana is finally doing what the drug war couldn’t
Washington Post ^ | March 03, 2016 | Christopher Ingraham

Posted on 03/05/2016 9:11:55 PM PST by Ken H

Legal marijuana may be doing at least one thing that a decades-long drug war couldn't: taking a bite out of Mexican drug cartels' profits.

The latest data from the U.S. Border Patrol shows that last year, marijuana seizures along the southwest border tumbled to their lowest level in at least a decade. Agents snagged roughly 1.5 million pounds of marijuana at the border, down from a peak of nearly 4 million pounds in 2009.

The data supports the many stories about the difficulties marijuana growers in Mexico face in light of increased competition from the north. As domestic marijuana production has ramped up in places such as California, Colorado and Washington, marijuana prices have fallen, especially at the bulk level.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cannabis; marijuana; pot; potheads; wod
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To: jessduntno

Marijuana was prosecuted far worse in the late 60s than now

I was there I was prosecuted in the early 79s this is not a disagreement

You are factually wrong

Just tell me where you read such a fantasy

I remember in Michigan and Texas too in early 70s a guy got life for a few joints

We would get routinely pulled over and searched for the probable cause of long hair and where I grew up until 1977 any amount of weed was a felony


61 posted on 03/06/2016 8:27:54 AM PST by wardaddy (Ted Cruz endorser of Rubio is off my Christmas list......both beloved by donor class unlike Trump)
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To: Dusty Road

Amazing how stupid Freepers can be isn’t it

They blab blab blab earnestly and full of conviction of something they know nothing about

The medical and retail DO NOT buy from illegal growers because of the quality issue and the crime

Anyone can permit to grow up to 99 plants in Colorado with minimal paperwork


62 posted on 03/06/2016 8:30:28 AM PST by wardaddy (Ted Cruz endorser of Rubio is off my Christmas list......both beloved by donor class unlike Trump)
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To: Ken H

So having the states make a profit from a bunch of stoners is a good thing? Makes very little sense.


63 posted on 03/06/2016 8:35:14 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: sargon

Did George Washington smoke the hemp?


64 posted on 03/06/2016 8:36:56 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: jessduntno

Drugs were not sold in the open then like you think from watching Woodstock all over America with apathetic law enforcement around

In corrupt cities like Manhattan where I lived cops got paid to allow little windows in the back of bodegas to sell drugs in general in exchange for payoffs

Washington sq had Jamaicans selling weed and the cops would come thru on occasion for show

That is big city corruption places where now you can smoke openly not prosecuted ....weed not cigs

Just look at penalty charts

I’m almost 60

I have lived the drug war prolly more than anyone here

They were not softer on drugs in the years after Haight Ashbury

That’s an urban myth I guess hipsters toss about like everyone went to key parties then and women were kept down by mean men

The mad men view of history

One thing is true

LSD was legal till 65-66


65 posted on 03/06/2016 8:46:05 AM PST by wardaddy (Ted Cruz endorser of Rubio is off my Christmas list......both beloved by donor class unlike Trump)
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To: Dusty Road
We’re talking CO, please keep up with the topic.

From the article:

As domestic marijuana production has ramped up in places such as California, Colorado and Washington,

I'm sorry. You were saying?

66 posted on 03/06/2016 8:55:46 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

So they finally legalize it and you trying to say they’re purchasing illegally grown pot and selling it through legal retail shops. You have evidence of this taking place?


67 posted on 03/06/2016 10:23:57 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: wardaddy

You’re almost 60 and you remember the drug culture of the 60’s? When you were 10 or 12? Go away sonny.


68 posted on 03/06/2016 10:51:52 AM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: Dusty Road

“So they finally legalize it and you trying to say they’re purchasing illegally grown pot and selling it through legal retail shops. You have evidence of this taking place?”

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/altered_state/2014/01/colorado_marijuana_legalization_how_lucrative_is_it_to_be_a_legal_weed_dealer.html


69 posted on 03/06/2016 10:58:25 AM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

And of course big government has done such a good job of keeping crack off the streets....so good in fact that convicted crack dealers are getting out of prison so they can murder their girlfriends and their children...


70 posted on 03/06/2016 11:41:15 AM PST by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: jessduntno

I smoked my first jay at 14 in 1971

Grew up around cousins and older friends who went to Vietnam

Weed culture hit my area around 1968 to 69

It wasn’t instant culture from the coasts back then to the hinterlands

I’d just like where you get so uninformed

It’s amusing


71 posted on 03/06/2016 11:43:15 AM PST by wardaddy (Ted Cruz endorser of Rubio is off my Christmas list......both beloved by donor class unlike Trump)
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To: jessduntno
The cartels are not going to give up their power to some jagov in CO because he has a rinky dink store. When they want to take the market back, they will.

Just like the rumrunners took back the legal alcohol market? LOL! Pull the other one.

72 posted on 03/06/2016 11:45:44 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: wardaddy

You’re my hero. And so knowledgeable. Golly gee.


73 posted on 03/06/2016 11:47:34 AM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

“Just like the rumrunners took back the legal alcohol market? LOL! Pull the other one.”

That isn’t this.


74 posted on 03/06/2016 11:48:27 AM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: jessduntno
So they finally legalize it and you trying to say they’re purchasing illegally grown pot and selling it through legal retail shops. You have evidence of this taking place?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/altered_state/2014/01/colorado_marijuana_legalization_how_lucrative_is_it_to_be_a_legal_weed_dealer.html

Your link doesn't say they’re purchasing illegally grown pot and selling it through legal retail shops. Here's what it does say:

"CT does not have to pay licensing fees, taxes, or other regulatory expenses. Over the past few years he’s dropped his rate for an eighth from around $50 to $30 to meet or beat the going price at Colorado dispensaries"

In other words: legal pot is cutting into illegal profit margins, and lightly taxed and regulated will do so even more.

75 posted on 03/06/2016 11:52:41 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: jessduntno
Just like the rumrunners took back the legal alcohol market? LOL! Pull the other one.

That isn’t this.

Evidence? They're both popular mind-altering substances that were once illegal then became (at least in some states) legalized.

76 posted on 03/06/2016 11:54:05 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: DennisR; Ken H
So having the states make a profit from a bunch of stoners is a good thing? Makes very little sense.

Would it be better if criminals made that profit? States profit from boozers now - is that bad?

77 posted on 03/06/2016 11:55:36 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Texas Eagle; ResponseAbility; Ken H; Dusty Road
So CO is licensing Mexcan drug cartels? Where is your proof?

SacBee Ignores Drug Cartels in Pot Farming Story

Video: Mexican Drug Cartels In Northern California

Mexican Cartels Extending Violent Reach Into Calaveras County

13 Arrested In California Drug Cartel Investigation

Which part of "CO" did you not understand?

78 posted on 03/06/2016 11:59:05 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: JediJones
The cartels will simply move on to harder drugs and start marketing them

LOL! Billboards? TV spots? Too funny.

79 posted on 03/06/2016 12:02:34 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Colorado Marijuana Legalization 2015: Fighting The Black Market And The Everyday Challenges Of Selling Legal Weed
BY DION RABOUIN ON 05/18/15 AT 3:22 PM

DENVER — It turns out selling weed is pretty hard. Contrary to popular belief, selling it legally, at least, isn’t all THC-infused lollipops and rainbows. Just ask David Schwartz.

The six-year cannabis-industry veteran came to Colorado in the ‘90s from Long Island, New York, after discovering Boulder on his way to a Rainbow gathering in Wyoming. For him, selling marijuana in a locale known around the nation for its liberalized pot laws is not just about counting money; it’s about taxes, regulatory compliance, inventory management, and above all, staying on the right side of Colorado’s “pot cops” — the Marijuana Enforcement Division (MED).

“Every single aspect of the industry requires a fair amount of consciousness and due diligence,” says Schwartz. “Your daily sales have to be loaded into MED at the end of the night, all your weights have to be accurate, you have to account for anything that dries up or goes missing. Every day you’ve got to do an accounting of what’s in your inventory.”


And then there’s another unique problem: the competing black market dealers who have none of the costs of operating a lawful business and often have access to product of similar quality. Marijuana advocates long suggested that legalization would be the key to wiping out the black market for marijuana, but almost a year and a half into the experiment, that hasn’t been the case.

About five miles from Herban, smoke is in the air and a dealer armed with three small baggies of Sour Diesel marijuana is doing business the old-fashioned way. The dealer spoke with International Business Times on condition of anonymity, in part to avoid possible arrest, but primarily because he fears backlash from people in the legal industry with whom he once worked.

He used to sell marijuana legally, he says. He owned a business that operated out of a modest building in Denver, but he grew disillusioned following what he saw as excessive regulation, uncertainty and taxation. College educated and previously struggling to keep up with the city’s rapidly rising rents, he says he now operates his marijuana business much the same way he did in high school: out of his car.

The state’s Amendment 64 ushered in a new era of business last year, allowing for marijuana to be sold for recreational as well as medicinal use. That brought a wave of new customers to pot dispensaries and a flood of cash, but it came with a cadre of regulations governing just about every aspect of who, what, when, where and how marijuana could be sold.

Skirting these regulations and free of overhead costs, sales tax and MED regulations, this dealer estimates he’s making two to three times as much money as when he owned his marijuana business.

And his clandestine delivery service is just a tiny part of the equation in the state’s black market.


80 posted on 03/06/2016 12:02:39 PM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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