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To: Fantasywriter

I repeat... You claimed he did nothing on border security except during election runs. He clearly did in May 2013, and you admit that he did, no matter whether you like what he did or not. You are wrong. A, no B.


151 posted on 03/07/2016 8:39:17 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317

Are you even reading my posts? Cruz said, REPEATEDLY, that the amendment you cited was NEVER meant to be enacted/become law. If you believe him, then he did squat on border security. If you’re calling him a liar, then you’re right about border security. But for that to be the case, you HAVE to concede Cruz is a world class liar.

This is not rocket science. If you genuinely can’t understand it, you’re dense. If you can grasp it perfectly well but you’re pretending you can’t, you’re dishonest.


152 posted on 03/08/2016 4:59:46 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Teacher317

Btw, in this same ‘poison pill’ amendment you make so much of, Cruz powerfully advocates for legalizing EVERY SINGLE FOREIGN INVADER/ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT in the US. He says, using these words, that his amendment brings them “out of the shadows.”

So just bear in mind that every time you cite this amendment, you are saying you believe Cruz wants MASS LEGALIZATION of EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL.

Iow, if he was being honest at the time, he was willing to throw a sop at border security in exchange for mass legalization. If he was being honest later, he didn’t want border security OR mass legalization.

Oh what a tangled web we weave...


153 posted on 03/08/2016 5:12:29 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Teacher317

Here is Cruz in his own words talking about his amendment. The bill he is pushing so hard to become law is none other than the Gang of Eight:

“If this amendment is adopted to the current bill, the effect would be that those 11 million under this current bill would still be eligible for RPI status. They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed, under the terms of the bill, they would be eligible for LPR status as well so that they are out of the shadows, which the proponents of this bill repeatedly point to as their principal objective to provide a legal status for those who are here illegally to be out of the shadows. ... I don’t want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass. And so I would urge people of good faith on both sides of the aisle, if the objective is to pass common sense immigration reform that secures the borders, that improves legal immigration, and that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows. Then we should look for areas of bipartisan agreement and compromise to come together. And this amendment, I believe, if this amendment were to pass, the chances of this bill passing into law would increase dramatically.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI


154 posted on 03/08/2016 6:01:00 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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