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Republican Combat Vet: Trump Is Openly Advocating War Crimes
Buzz Feed ^ | 03/04/2016 | Christopher Massie

Posted on 03/04/2016 9:25:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, a former Air Force pilot who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, said on Thursday that Donald Trump is openly advocating war crimes that would cause the soldiers who obeyed his orders to be jailed.

“If you’re a private in the field and your major or your colonel orders you to do something that is a war crime, you actually bear responsibility, you can’t say that the colonel made me do it,” said Kinzinger, who is supporting Marco Rubio. “What Donald Trump, as wanting to be president of the United States is advocating, is a war crime that would force every soldier that did, i.e. killed the relatives of terrorists, tortured regardless of whether it not it works, the things that he’s advocating would force all of these people in jail.”

Speaking on the Steve Cochran Show on Chicago radio, Kinzinger argued that Trump was either “all bluster” or comparable to Italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini.

“Now, you have to do one of two things,” he said. “You either believe that Donald trump is all bluster which most people do but for some reason they like that, or you take him at his word in which case he is advocating, like what Benito Mussolini did, war crimes.”

Kinzinger also said that what Trump was calling for “makes me sick.”

“For the leading Republican presidential candidate to advocate war crimes, which he does openly, just advocates war crimes, doesn’t matter, makes me sick really,” he said. “Especially as somebody that’s defended the country. It’s just terrible.”

Later in the interview, Kinzinger said, “I can’t see myself supporting Donald Trump. I never say definitively because who knows in the future. But I have no intention of supporting Donald Trump.”

As for his preferred candidate, Rubio, Kinzinger said he felt “pretty good” about the Florida senator’s chances of winning his home state’s primary, but that “I’d definitely rather be in Trump’s position politically.”


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To: driftdiver

“So what other laws are you ok with the President ignoring?”

I’m not.


101 posted on 03/04/2016 9:53:39 AM PST by Durbin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I’m curious. If ISIS is not a signatory to the Geneva Convention, how does that tie the US to those rules in dealing with them?

For a chin, you do a lot of typing. I’d like to see that keyboard.


102 posted on 03/04/2016 9:53:47 AM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: xzins
Trump clearly spelled out the case of a family that had knowledge and aided those terrorists.

Can you find that quote? The quote I posted didn't mention that at all. It specifically advocated targeting them because terrorist care about their families. He mentioned nothing about them aiding and abetting.

I do recall him making other comments in line with what you're saying, but his argument even there was, essentially, that the families always know what's going on. That's essentially a justification for open season on families.

He has had multiple opportunities to walk this statement back and has not done so. In this case, I again think it is something that he does not really mean, but knows that it excites some of his supporters and so says it to impress them. And you can read this thread and see that there are folks perfectly fine with doing that. Those of us who don't agree are, apparently, wimps/cowards.

I have no doubt that, at some point after he wins the nomination, he'll walk his statements back and claim he was misunderstood.

103 posted on 03/04/2016 9:54:10 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: stanne

Its been posted numerous times.


104 posted on 03/04/2016 9:54:37 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: stanne

So not only do democrats segregate each class of person into segments but now FReepers do it with their own military? Well he was there and probably saw some things but he didn’t partake. How do you know this?

According to your rationale he saw no action. Did you know MPs (not a combat role) would go on regular patrols? Did you also know tanker refuelers in the ground were primary targets of terrorists?

Until you know the specific actions of an individual in theatre well you just don’t know


105 posted on 03/04/2016 9:54:44 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Stop calling our vets “traitorous piece of garbage’ scum cultist.

This man was on the front fighting to defend the liberties you and I enjoy.

I see do deference between you idiot Trump cultists and Democrats.


106 posted on 03/04/2016 9:54:49 AM PST by JerseyRepub (2008 Obama cultists = 2016 Trump cultists)
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To: Durbin

Since that isn’t what was said, then why would we do that?

However, during Haditha, we know that the inhabitants knew that the American convoy would get bombed.

Were they complicit?

I think so. I think it should have authorized a bomb run on that village to take out the buildings where the terrorists were holed up rather than having our guys risk their lives going inside those buildings to root them out one by one.

What do you think?


107 posted on 03/04/2016 9:55:29 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: stanne

He has to pull his head out of his ass.


108 posted on 03/04/2016 9:55:32 AM PST by angcat
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To: SeekAndFind

Terrorists do not get the protections of the Geneva Convention. I not think it possible to commit a crime against humanity when dealing with terrorists or terrorist states.


109 posted on 03/04/2016 9:56:06 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most of the stuff Trump has promised HAS been all bluster.

While many would like to see him deport all illegals, it is simply impossible to do legally. There is no way you can deport anyone without due process of law. That applies to anyone who is inside the US, citizen or not. So you can _round up_ whoever you want, but you cannot even hold them in a local jail without initiating legal proceedings. At that point, the legal battle to deport begins.

Multiply that by 11 million.

I think that the guy in this post just sees the same ludicrous bluster but in another area. Because he is right, a lot of the stuff Trump has said he will do against _terrorists_ he cannot do, because he could never get the legal authority to implement. Legally.

That’s why many don’t take Trump seriously, because he knows he cannot do what he is advocating, yet he just throws out the red meat because the electorate is not sophisticated enough to realize that a President cannot do whatever the heck he wants; there are two other branches of government that were deliberately put in place to keep a ridiculous President in check.

And a man deliberately misleading his supporters from the outset is pretty scary, if you think about it a bit.

Finally, realize that in any violation of the Constitution that you indulge Trump, you are essentially also empowering the next Barack Obama with. And guess who that next leftist would use those powers on (hint, it won’t be Muslims or illegal aliens)?


110 posted on 03/04/2016 9:56:30 AM PST by risen_feenix
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To: jersey117

Bomber Harris once responded to those called the carpet bombing of Dresden and Hamburg immoral. “Name one act of war that is moral. Is sticking a bayonet in a man’s belly moral?”, he answered. War is all Hell, and the sooner you can end my any means, the better.


111 posted on 03/04/2016 9:56:34 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: Durbin

Sorry that ws directed at the other person. I should have been clearer.


112 posted on 03/04/2016 9:56:36 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Do you remember his talking about the 9/11 families of the terrorists last night? They were his example of what he meant.

He had the details of the families wrong, but he had the point right. Knowing relatives were permitted to flee when they should have had to account.


113 posted on 03/04/2016 9:57:25 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Do you remember his talking about the 9/11 families of the terrorists last night? They were his example of what he meant.

He had the details of the families wrong, but he had the point right. Knowing relatives were permitted to flee when they should have had to account.


114 posted on 03/04/2016 9:57:31 AM PST by xzins (Do You Donate to the Freepathon? It's time to take YOUR turn!)
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To: Durbin
ISIS and any group like them must be destroyed to the last man, woman and child.

Spare only the infants who have not yet learned that "Jews are the descendants of pigs and dogs".


115 posted on 03/04/2016 9:57:53 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ConservativeMind; Bruce Campbells Chin

“If ISIS is not a signatory to the Geneva Convention, how does that tie the US to those rules in dealing with them?”

Because America is a signatory. ISIS isn’t a state either, nor are they uniformed.

America still cannot target women and children who are not committing acts of war against America.


116 posted on 03/04/2016 9:58:10 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Trolls will be trolls.
117 posted on 03/04/2016 9:58:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: JerseyRepub

When someone goes against your “guy” and it goes to a point where so called conservatives trash vets just because he makes a statement contrary to your beliefs you know you’ve gone beyond just support of your cantidate and moved to full cult mode.


118 posted on 03/04/2016 9:59:13 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: SeekAndFind

Duncan Hunter defends Trump debate views on attacking ISIS
youtube ^ | 3/4/16 | Fox Newsroom
Posted on 3/4/2016, 9:51:15 AM by Zenjitsuman

Duncan Hunter a war veteran gives his view on war, backing Trump up.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3405121/posts


119 posted on 03/04/2016 10:00:14 AM PST by Grampa Dave (, Voting to elect Trump as president is the only known cure for chronic TDS!)
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To: Jarhead9297

Lived on a tanker base during combat, actually.


120 posted on 03/04/2016 10:00:37 AM PST by stanne
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