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New External DDG-1000 Mast Reduces Ship’s Stealth From Original Design
USNI News ^ | March 3, 2016 | Sam LaGrone

Posted on 03/03/2016 11:38:03 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

A newly revealed configuration of sensors set for next-generation destroyer Zumwalt (DDG-1000) could make the ship less stealthy than originally intended, several naval experts told USNI News on Wednesday.

According to a new artist’s concept of the configuration from the service, the three ships in the Zumwalt-class will position sensors originally designed to be embedded in the ships’ composite deckhouses on a mast positioned on the front of the deck house, with several more sensors on either side of the deck house.

The change will sacrifice some of the benefits of the composite deckhouse design, conceived to make the ship harder to detect by an enemy’s radar. The antennas for the sensors would have been mounted on the superstructure much like the flush antennas on the U.S. fleet of stealth aircraft.

Instead, to save weight and cost, the antennas will be installed on the outside of the superstructure, Naval Sea Systems Command told USNI News.

NAVSEA provided USNI News of a description of the changes, saying the Zumwalt-class would still perform within the Navy’s requirements for the stealth of the ship.

“The current DDG-1000 topside configuration is a performance and weight improvement and cost-avoidance initiative. This configuration adds a mast to the forward part of the deckhouse and relocates several communications systems including Ultra High Frequency (UHF), Very High Frequency (VHF), data link and the wind sensor from the deckhouse to the mast,” read the statement. “This configuration will be present on all three ships and provides improved performance redundancy, cost avoidance and weight reduction, while still meeting Key Performance Parameters (KPP) requirements for Radar Cross Section (RCS).”

The RCS is a measure of stealth. The lower a RCS, the smaller a ship or aircraft appears on radar.

(For example, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor is said to have the RCS of a “steel marble,” from certain angles.)

The original design of the ship would have had a much smaller RCS, but cost considerations prompted the Navy over the last several years to make the trades in increasing RCS to save money, Bryan Clark, naval analyst Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA) and former special assistant to past Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert, told USNI News on Wednesday.

However, he said, the design still meets the minimum requirements for what the Navy asked for in its initial DDG-1000 requirements – the “threshold,” in acquisition speak.

“[The RCS] is still lower than their threshold but higher than it could have been,” Clark told USNI News on Wednesday.

Retired Navy captain and naval analyst Chris Carlson told USNI News that mast bore a resemblance to the configuration on the Arleigh Burke guided missile destroyers (DDG-51).

Several sources told USNI News the changes to the mast were a direct result of a downscale in capabilities the service made to the ship class following a 2010 Nunn-McCurdy restructure – a federal law that requires the Defense Department recertify a program after costs have increased of 25 percent per unit above the original estimate. The program tripped the legislation when the Department of Defense cut the program to three hulls from seven, spiking the price-per-unit.

As part of the Nunn-McCurdy restructure, the Navy shed capabilities – like canceling the ship’s S-band volume search radar– on the hulls to bring the cost down on the $22.1-billion, three-ship program.

Other cost-saving choices have trickled out later, like replacing twin 57mm guns on the ship with a much smaller 30mm pair.

The first ship – Zumwalt – is set to start a round of builders trials later this month ahead of a delivery of the ship’s hull to the Navy from shipbuilder General Dynamics Bath Iron Works (BIW) later this year.

Following delivery, the ship will complete the outfitting of its combat system in San Diego.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ddg1000; stealth; usn; zumwalt

1 posted on 03/03/2016 11:38:03 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Isn’t it a little late for this level of change?


2 posted on 03/03/2016 11:51:32 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
Did they save 22 billion by moving it so they can build the replacements?

(Seriously, how much of a compromise is this, in terms of RCS, and could that prove to be fatal to the vessel?)

Sometimes you aren't saving money when you undermine the main concept.

3 posted on 03/03/2016 11:56:05 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
(Seriously, how much of a compromise is this, in terms of RCS, and could that prove to be fatal to the vessel?)

You'd have to look at the radar range equation for the particular radar that would be looking at the "target".

Keep all the variables the same except for sigma (the RCS) and R (range)....then vary the sigma and see what range needs to be to keep the same Power received (you could assume that this would be the minimum detectable system for the radar).

I'd imagine a change of a few dB has a pretty good impact.

4 posted on 03/04/2016 12:27:30 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I don’t see this type as becoming a great success. The Arleigh Burkes have been a solid work horse. I would be looking at a new cruiser design, 18,000 tons or so for gunboat diplomacy type force projection.


5 posted on 03/04/2016 3:00:40 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Hmmm... If this is still in the design phase, there’s still time to fix it. Unless they get waivers from the original requirement. I know that’s done all the time but in watering down this original requirement do they really want to accept this risk?


6 posted on 03/04/2016 3:03:58 AM PST by SueRae (An election like no other..)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I still wonder how important stealth is when it comes to surface ships. This isn’t WWII...It’s not like they’re “sneaking up” on their would-be opponents. With satellites and submarines, the ships can still be detected fairly easily.


7 posted on 03/04/2016 5:23:15 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The Navy has dumped billions of dollars into these three dinosaur “destroyers” and now they're making them more visible to enemy sensors because to do otherwise is too expensive? Excuse me, I thought the DDG-1000 Zumwalts were, next to CVNs, the most expensive items in the surface Navy's budget. Anything that makes a DDG-1000 a bigger target [compromises its stealth characteristics] should not be allowed.
8 posted on 03/04/2016 8:18:24 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( To err is human, to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team)
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