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A Plan in Case Robots Take the Jobs: Give Everyone a Paycheck
NY Times ^ | March 2, 2016 | Farhad Manjoo

Posted on 03/03/2016 8:45:07 AM PST by C19fan

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In a 80/20 future society, 20% of the population will be employable the rest offer zero value to an employee, you are going to need a massive welfare state.
1 posted on 03/03/2016 8:45:07 AM PST by C19fan
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And you can kiss fiscal sanity goodbye


2 posted on 03/03/2016 8:47:09 AM PST by LMAO (I know Hillary and I think she'd make a great president or Vice President. Don Trump 2008)
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Not necessarily. All that robotic labor could drive the cost of goods down to a level that is insanely cheap.


3 posted on 03/03/2016 8:48:38 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Elect Trump and he will protect good paying American jobs from robots by placing a 45% tariff on robots.


4 posted on 03/03/2016 8:49:53 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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Yeah..... If you had a job paying decent middle class wages to pay for insanely cheap goods and services.


5 posted on 03/03/2016 8:51:25 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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I have a better plan. Teach Robot Design starting in Kindergarten.


6 posted on 03/03/2016 8:51:40 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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Time to learn how to build and repair robots.

I know if you are a mechanic who can work on electric and hybrid vehicles you can have multiple job offers around here.


7 posted on 03/03/2016 8:52:24 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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[ In a 80/20 future society, 20% of the population will be employable the rest offer zero value to an employee, you are going to need a massive welfare state. ]

Sounds like the a perfect environment for islamic cancer to breed and expand into...

Imagine hordes of veiled women crapping out future jihadis and breeder reactors....

All on “Society’s Dime”, like europe only worse...


8 posted on 03/03/2016 8:52:28 AM PST by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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We would likely still have most of our people on some sort of welfare, but it would not be such a fiscal train wreck as their basic living costs would drop substantially. Sort of like an energy breakthrough that would make electricity so cheap no one would bother to meter it.

Just playing Isaac Asimov there, not trying to provoke a political backlash.


9 posted on 03/03/2016 8:56:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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The fear of automation is been plaguing us since Classical Greece. I don’t care how many Robots we have there always be a need for humans to do things for other humans - end of story. Who knows, with more people freed up from working with their hands and using their minds who knows how fast and far science will advance?

Bring on the robots, just not the sex ones because that’s just, well-creepy.


10 posted on 03/03/2016 8:59:40 AM PST by WMarshal (Trump 2016 (and 2020)!)
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Many years ago I came across an article in an AI journal that discussed this same question. It said that in the future, instead of working, people would make money by owning robots. But it seems likely that only a small minority of people will be involved in owning robots.


11 posted on 03/03/2016 9:02:00 AM PST by wideminded
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That’ll work for a while, but eventually robotics will be able to perform that function without human involvement.


12 posted on 03/03/2016 9:03:47 AM PST by Maceman
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Before the civil war, almost 70% of the workforce were farmers. We survived. We prospered through automation.


13 posted on 03/03/2016 9:05:25 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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When everything necessary for life is produced by automatic labor, you really have no other choice but to institute a welfare state and limit the population (until you can expand to other planets).

I forsee people having their biometrics registered (better than chip implants) to get welfare/housing/etc and being placed on mandatory birth control until being allowed to reproduce.

In theory, you can give all people a free standard of living like the richest 1% today. However, the super rich will definitely get greedy and corral the common people into the most minimal ghettos while they build endless estates.

IMO, artificial intelligence will be the death of freedom for most of the population. It should be banned globally but there is no chance to stop other nations from developing it and threatening those who don’t. Much like nuclear weapons...


14 posted on 03/03/2016 9:07:21 AM PST by varyouga
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You do realize there is AI all around you even as you post?


15 posted on 03/03/2016 9:13:34 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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You don’t get a dime from MY robot!


16 posted on 03/03/2016 9:14:59 AM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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Will the HillaryBot get a paycheck?


17 posted on 03/03/2016 9:17:05 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: RedStateRocker

Just download the 3D file for the new Robot model, and print it out.


18 posted on 03/03/2016 9:18:14 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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You do realize there is AI all around you even as you post?

Trumpsters, Damn...no escape.

19 posted on 03/03/2016 9:21:48 AM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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,,,eventually robotics will be able to perform that function without human involvement.

And when the robots have become self-aware, they may decide humans are no longer useful to them so no need to keep us around.

20 posted on 03/03/2016 9:31:56 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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