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The Plot to Take Down a Fox News Analyst
New York Times Magazine ^ | MARCH 1, 2016 | ALEX FRENCH

Posted on 03/02/2016 4:58:38 AM PST by iowamark

For years, Wayne Simmons claimed to be a former C.I.A. operative. Then one ex-spook got suspicious.

Kent Clizbe, a 55-year-old former C.I.A. officer and intelligence contractor, has cultivated a diverse set of interests in his later years. He loves bird watching and participates in his local Christmas Bird Count, an informal census organized by the Audubon Society. He has a patent on a device, the TimeOff, that prevents unattended-stove fires. But Clizbe’s true motivating force — a holdover, perhaps, from his decade with the agency — is an unrelenting compulsion to get to the bottom of things. He vets every person he meets, interrogating every fact presented to him. This perpetual need to turn everything inside out is the defining trait of Clizbe’s personality, and he remains faithful to it, even when it incurs him great personal expense...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alexfrench; audubonsociety; cia; fnc; foxnews; kentclizbe; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; nytimesmagazine; obamanation; waynesimmons
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Interesting story.
1 posted on 03/02/2016 4:58:38 AM PST by iowamark
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3472101/How-Fox-News-CIA-man-exposed-Facebook-chat-Former-spook-claims-three-year-investigation-led-arrest-Wayne-Simmons-fraud.html
“How Fox News’ CIA ‘con-man’ was exposed over Facebook chat: Former spook claims his three-year investigation led to arrest of Wayne Simmons for fraud”


2 posted on 03/02/2016 5:00:00 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: iowamark

“He vets every person he meets, interrogating every fact presented to him. This perpetual need to turn everything inside out is the defining trait of Clizbe’s personality”

I wouldn’t want to be a neighbor or co-worker of his.


3 posted on 03/02/2016 5:01:42 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: iowamark

You are correct, “Interesting story”.

Probably true, BUT coming from the NYT, I am skeptical. But since the tale also exposed FOX “News”, I sure want to believe it.


4 posted on 03/02/2016 5:11:01 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: equaviator
Why worry if you've nothing to hide. Now, again, two plus two equals?


5 posted on 03/02/2016 5:14:56 AM PST by katana (Just my opinion)
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That’s just Richard Burton, a British actor who’s been dead for what, 20 years? He’d have been a good drinking buddy. Nosy neighbors and co-workers are NOT good drinking buddies.


6 posted on 03/02/2016 5:20:04 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: iowamark

Wayne Simmons
7 posted on 03/02/2016 5:20:07 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: iowamark

The trouble with vetting someone who might have been in the CIA is that that agency will “neither confirm nor deny” that that person worked for them.

So there is no reliable way to check on it, —unless— someone on the inside spills the beans...


8 posted on 03/02/2016 5:42:22 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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He did a great job “vetting”Odungo....right?....he did didn’t he....or maybe he’s too busy vetting Hilda...maybe. Does the Times have any info on those vettings?


9 posted on 03/02/2016 5:50:46 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Is it possible he was involved in a long op to discredit Fox?

If this story is accurate, Simmons was nuts.


10 posted on 03/02/2016 5:59:20 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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an unrelenting compulsion to get to the bottom of things. He vets every person he meets, interrogating every fact presented to him.

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I’ve been quizzed by people like that but only once per person. It’s like they are calling you a liar. I’ll walk away from anybody who doubts my veracity.

I learned long ago that it’s hard to lie, you have to have an excellent memory for detail. “Let’s see now, how did I tell that story the first time”?


11 posted on 03/02/2016 6:01:35 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: equaviator

“That’s just Richard Burton, a British actor who’s been dead for what, 20 years? He’d have been a good drinking buddy. Nosy neighbors and co-workers are NOT good drinking buddies.”

Whenever someone from the audience at one of Jerry Seinfeld’s shows asks, “What’s Newman (or Cramer) really like?”, he reminds them “Folks, these are characters, not real people!”


12 posted on 03/02/2016 6:07:42 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: equaviator
“He vets every person he meets, interrogating every fact presented to him. This perpetual need to turn everything inside out is the defining trait of Clizbe’s personality” I wouldn’t want to be a neighbor or co-worker of his.

He digs into everyone, except for his bosses or people in government. Just the ordinary citizens.

13 posted on 03/02/2016 6:10:20 AM PST by Vic S
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To: iowamark

A highly skilled pathological liar........


14 posted on 03/02/2016 6:21:34 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

I’m talking about Simmons


15 posted on 03/02/2016 6:22:51 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Tupelo
“BUT coming from the NYT”

Bingo, we have a winner.

(yes he is probably phony)

16 posted on 03/02/2016 6:37:42 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: .45 Long Colt

Sounds like a fan of Charlie Sheen... Iam winning!


17 posted on 03/02/2016 6:43:16 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: iowamark

It really doesn’t reflect well on Fox that some of their own military analysts were for years telling them this guy was a fraud and they continued to use him.

And it doesn’t reflect well on the Bush administration that they not only made him part of that media analysts program but had him in close contact with people such as Rumsfeld.


18 posted on 03/02/2016 6:47:12 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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I believe Clizbe.

His senior contacts, like M, make it clear Simmons is a fraud.

Can’t really blame Fox, as there is no place to vet CIA claims.


19 posted on 03/02/2016 6:56:38 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

You have to be sceptical of all these so called expert talking heads they dredge up. I’ve known enough real people and frauds to keep my antennas always up.


20 posted on 03/02/2016 6:57:18 AM PST by Oldexpat
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