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Trying, really trying, but can’t work up a tear for the Health Insurance companies.
I suspect they had no choice but to back it and try to make the best of it. If the insurance companies balked, then Nancy would have gone straight to single payer. Everyone was banking on the courts to stop it. Looks like Roberts got them too.
6 weeks ago I got a new store bought knee installed on my left knee.
Two years ago I had the right one replaced.
Both cost about $140,000.
I also had nasal reconstructive surgery to the tune of $60,000 last year.
Not to mention my usual doctoro check ups I figure I am in to Blue Cross for about $360,000 in the last two years.
I am all fixed up so it is time to quit blue cross and get some low cost obammy care nonsense.
Excuse me for laughing but you knew,...
“Doctors protest Highmark payment cuts spurred by Obamacare losses”...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3401789/posts
Yeah, but Big Pharma made out big and will do better in the near future, when a few more elements kick in, such as the ‘Take The Pill The Doctor Told You To Take Or You Will Be Fined’ rule.
I’ve noticed that I now hear the words’...If you have private Healthcare..” in commercials offering rehab. I don’t recall hearing this before and now I’m wondering if if they are referring to obozo care or to other than obozo care. The latter would not surprise me.
DEATH TAXES!
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-estate-claims-minnesota/2016/02/17/id/714848/
Obamacare Estate Claims Stunning Minnesota Residents
Many Minnesota residents are learning that taxes are being assessed against their estates to recover the cost of medical coverage through Obamacare from when they were alive.
One cannot pick up a turd by the clean end.
Obamacare, like all offal, has no clean end.
Make a deal with the Devil and you get your a*s burned.
I have zero sympathy for them.
Obamacare is the biggest regressive tax increase ever perpetrated on working people in this country.
Regressive because wealthy people have a small bite taken out of their income compared to working and middle class people.
Wealthy people will be able to fly places and get less expensive healthcare than the trapped workers here in the States.
Powerful business owners will obtain more profits by shifting the burden of healthcare insurance over to the taxpayers.
Regressive because every leftist constituency that has been able: has received a waiver so not to be trapped in this tax.
Members of Congress have lobbied that their staffs have the tax paid for by the government - that is right! The taxpayers get to pay the Obamacare taxes of the people who plotted tax them unmercifully.
Add your take on tax and Obamacare please:
The State’s Role
One thing that does not get talked about with Obamacare is that it is NOT insurance.
If you cannot pay the amount the government decides that the IRS will take from you, then you will be placed into your states welfare roles. And if you get sick, and require care, the state will pay...
...THEN THE STATE WILL GO AFTER ALL YOUR ASSETS TO COVER THE COSTS. AND YOU OR GRANDMA WILL LOSE YOUR HOUSE OR OTHER BELONGINGS.
There is no good side to Obama care and making sure people were covered more than they are now is not what it does.
OBAMACARE MAKES SURE THAT THE MEDICAL-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX HAS INCOME FROM TAKING HOMES AND ASSETS FROM PEOPLE.
DO NOT FORGET THIS
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Note from CNS News
People whose household income is too small to qualify for the subsidy will be put on Medicaid. People whose household income exceeds 400 percent of the FPL will get no subsidy at all.
According to the IRS, which responded to a CNSNews.com inquiry on the issue, a household earning an annual income that is just $1 more than 400 percent of the FPL is ineligible for an Obamacare subsidy, period.
As explained by both the IRS—which wrote the regulation governing the Obamacare subsidy—and the Congressional Research Service, which published a July 31 report on the matter (Health Insurance Premium Credits in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act), the Obamacare insurance-premium subsidy essentially works as a cap on the percentage of annual income an eligible person is required to pay in health-insurance premiums.
my attorney tells me that there is no way to shield my assets from the government/medical/industrial complex. Very painful to hear.
Some consumers take themselves out of the market with healthcare medical bill sharing, I could do that and if they will have me, that will probably be my choice. I am not sure that the complex’s reach won’t make that a futile gesture though.
Thank you for confirming what I have tried to talk to people about to no avail. Interesting that my acquaintance who has lives a rather dissolute life, who never paid off anything including her student loans, owes tons on her house, with a low payment, will be able to keep her house, and I would lose mine. Painful.
One thing that seems clear about the current health care debacle is the control the health care industrial complex and the government will have over my assets. And there seems to be no way around it. Tell me if I am wrong to believe this. It will help me sleep at night.
I am being told that I must have Medicare and an insurance overlay or pay penalties. I pay extra for the overlay. If for some reason I cannot pay for the overlay, and require care I will be put on Medicaid, and given care and my assets forfeited to the state/healthcare complex.
Now I understand that this has been a way to manage folks with small assets, in our community giving a house to the town for taxes and bills has been common for years. Our towns use to let the elderly live in their houses until after the death, then foreclose.
However the current combination of insurers, healthcare entities, and government can provide a very different picture. The government has opened a window to previously untapped assets, older people who have previously been able to cover their healthcare insurance, keep their assets intact and provide a boost for the next generation.
It seems to me that all the government/insurer axis needs to do is change the insurance price point depending on the financial needs of the insurer or healthcare institution. Less people able to afford, more assets turned over.
The other part, is how prices in healthcare do not reflect reality but instead, a very unrealistic and non market based assumption. I see it in my own pricing for services in the market.
Now I am not opposed to paying for my own healthcare, but I damned sure refuse to be subjected to or pay unrealistic, manipulated and dictated prices, which affects everything from equipment, prescriptions and services.
Both these issues combine to provide a perfect storm of assets to be sucked out of the middle class.
I would really like your opinion here. You have a reasoned free market perspective. You are also a good writer, rare in economics. Thank you for your time.
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Get in bed with the Devil...
I’m counting my blessings after reading this thread. Last year, my husband started a job at a small healthcare company in rural West Virginia. He’s so well liked that coworkers overlook his co-pays. We haven’t paid anything for healthcare.
These huge insurance companies deserve all the losses that they get
In November of last year I received a letter from the large medical practice that my family uses. It said that if you have BC/BS HMO or Bc/BS medicare advantage all your appointments are cancelled after January 1. This is a very large practice with all kinds of specialists and family practice doctors.