Attorney General turns up the heat in public war with Apple

AP ^ | March 1, 2016 | BRANDON BAILEY and ERIC TUCKER

[John W]

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The nation's top law officer called for dialogue with the tech industry, but also turned up the heat on Apple for refusing to help the FBI unlock an encrypted iPhone used by an extremist mass killer in San Bernardino.

"One risk is making this all about Apple when in reality it's about all of us," U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch told an audience at a major cybersecurity industry conference in San Francisco on Tuesday.

"We have to decide," she added. "Do we let one company, no matter how great a company, no matter now beautiful their devices - do we let one company decide this issue for all of us? Do we let one company decide this is how investigations are going to be conducted?"

[refreshed]

If they do win, I might switch completely over to Apple. The government can’t crack the stuff.

[mrsmel]

I despise this government, and it includes both parties, for preferring to spy on regular citizens, groping grannies and children, trying to abridge our Second Amendment right, and generally attempting to take complete control of our lives and harass us, instead of doing the simple, common sense things which would work, like profiling people who are obviously in the category of potential terrorist, or stopping the revolving door on letting violent criminals put of prison and kept away from the innocent, or allowing the police to be proactive where the crime is, which statistically is where the minorities are.

That they prefer to spin their wheels doing nothing constructive to find and catch potential terrorists and criminals while steadily increasing their harrassment of regular citizens and encroachment of our freedom, should tell us all that making inroads into catching and holding criminals and terrorists isn't even their real agenda at all, Their real agenda is to incrementally take control of our lives until it's complete, harass and intimidate us, and leave us at the mercy of armed criminals who laugh and scoff at the law, while making us dependent upon government LE which may or may not save our lives.

This government is despicable, and complicit-all of them-in their attempts to enslave us while trying to force our dependence on our defense from criminals and terrorists upon an unreliable government using "political correctness" as a tool to put us in this untenable position.

[Still Thinking]

Unless they mean “We just need Apple to write the software one time, and then we can decide whose phone we can break into and when — but we promise we’ll never do it without a warrant! We’d never do it based on the owner’s politics or do it to our ex-girlfriend’s phone! You can trust us!”

[Zathras]

Here is how the latest version of the Apple security system works and why it can’t be easily decrypted with the new version of OS.

The thumbprint identification done during installation is I think used to generate the encryption key and then it is added to the number pad ID as a backup.

The final key is then stored on a memory chip not accessible to the OS but only to the internal microprocessor.

I suppose if they had cut the guys thumb off, it would have been possible to get in by using it.

The problem is the police and DHS messed up the procedure and now the phone is in full lock down.
This was part of CA requirement that there be a deactivation switch in case a phone is stolen.

I’m not sure what they are going to get out of getting inside the phone. They already have the phone records from the cell phone provider.

[Still Thinking]

Unless it’s a false flag to shepherd everyone onto Apple. I doubt it, but you can never be paranoid enough, evidently.

[Charles H. (The_r0nin)]

The moment Apple creates that tool, they are subject to a legitimate subpoena, and will have to turn it over. That is settled case law, without any wiggle room whatsoever. Period. The government can subpoena any existing tools as part of the present understanding of the All Writs Act.

The only legal reason that Apple has to fight this order is that the tools don't exist, and creating them would be an undue burden under the Act (demanding that they create something that doesn't exist in order to help the government). What you are proposing would forfeit the case instantly.

[cousair]

WOW.......you do go on!!

[Lurking Libertarian]

And people wonder why Trump leads...

Trump came out in favor of the Government's side in this dispute.

[lastchance]

That is disappointing.

[The_Victor]

You know, the federal government has the right to regulate an industry, and require that a government accessible back door be added for the sake of public safety in stopping a terrorist. We require airbags and seatbelts for all automobiles by statute for public safety. But the judiciary is not eligible to require this. Only the legislature (with presidential signature) can make a statutory requirement like this.

[MrEdd]

It has been getting out to the public.

I have followed this on tech forums for over a month.

[Still Thinking]

So you’re saying Apple’s story is correct, and that it’s slowly getting out? Good!

It’s amazing how uniformly compliant the mass media has been in distorting the story, making it look like Apple’s refusing to unlock this specific phone, even with a court order.

[Mack the knife]

If I were Apple, I would develop the tool to retrieve the data.

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Then the tool would exist, and subject to subpoena.

Lynch is too cute by half when claiming that their request is to just unlock this one phone. That one time sets a precedent large enuf to drive a 18 wheeler truck through.

I agree with Apple that Congress should make this call, not an unelected judge.

[Organic Panic]

I see Lynch has peeled her self away from the Hillary investigation to attack a beloved liberal brand.

[SkyPilot]

Loretta Lynch Vows to Prosecute Anti-Muslim Speech

Send this bitch to Federal prison.

[ex91B10]

Hey, about HRC’s emails...nat’l security don’t ya’ think? A nit more important tan a flippin’ iphon.

[Surrounded_too]

If they were able to crack the phone on their own do you think the Feds would have told us or kept it secret so they can keep spying on us? Maybe they really did break it and this is all a ruse?

[Ozark Tom]

The NSA has trouble keeping it’s own backdoor hacks secure.

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mcafee-nsa-back-door-gives-every-us-secret-to-enemies-2016-2

[fella]

Cook has been very helpful with China’s “cyber security” issues. In China cyber security means that they want backdoors and keys so they can keep an over watch of potential trouble makers. They don’t want anymore Tiananmen Squares.

[Ozark Tom]

One federal judge in New York agrees with Apple.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/judge-rules-in-favor-of-apple-in-key-case-involving-a-locked-iphone/2016/02/29/fa76783e-db3d-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html