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Donald Trump just declared his intent to destroy American democracy
The Washington Post ^ | 2/26/2016 | Erik Wemple

Posted on 02/27/2016 1:57:52 PM PST by dschapin

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To: knarf

I agree that there is objective Truth. However, there are many political arguments where both sides are passionately sure that they are right. Do you really want a court adjudicating those and deciding what is true and what is false?


81 posted on 02/27/2016 2:22:46 PM PST by dschapin
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To: dschapin

Who wrote that headline? RuPaul?


82 posted on 02/27/2016 2:23:11 PM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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To: nopardons

Because I don’t believe that he is ineligible. I agree with the founders who drafted the first immigration law which said that the children of American Citizens born overseas where to be considered as natural born.


83 posted on 02/27/2016 2:24:04 PM PST by dschapin
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes, there is a difference between questioning someone’s character and then out right smearing a person’s character by promulgating lies that the ignorant masses then consume.


84 posted on 02/27/2016 2:25:00 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: texhenry

Tell that to Obama!


85 posted on 02/27/2016 2:25:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: gg188

Washington Post is full on assualt on Donald Trump..24/7

F U Bezos. Im done with Amazon.com it’s a losing company anyway except for their cloud servers


86 posted on 02/27/2016 2:25:55 PM PST by ground_fog
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To: dschapin

That’s true, but your argument seems to be that it is a political argument to deliberately lie about someone.

BTW, public figures almost never win libel suits, because there is a much higher bar for them.


87 posted on 02/27/2016 2:26:05 PM PST by euram
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To: apillar

Well... even if Romney and McCain didn’t get 100% FReeper support after the nomination, we did ‘look on the bright side’ and admit that they were the better choice over the Dem. We also focused on the few redeeming points that the men had.

I remember the “I’m voting for Palin, not McCain!” threads.


88 posted on 02/27/2016 2:26:37 PM PST by Marie (TRUMP TRUTH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg)
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To: GregB

Trump said this. How is it “destroying him” to report it? But I guess that’s what he wants - to be able to control what is reported, and if he doesn’t like it, it’s a “hit piece.” Even though it’s his own words, and even though political attack pieces in public media were, actually, one of the reasons we have the First Amendment.


89 posted on 02/27/2016 2:26:41 PM PST by livius
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To: dschapin

The First Amendment doesn’t provide infinite protections to all forms of speech, and it’s worth debating what should be protected.

If the NYT or any other business publishes information they know to be false, should it be protected from slander and libel claims if the victim is a public figure?

“Trump is an asshat” should be protected, granted.

However, what Trump is cleverly doing is forcing the press to defend the idea that they should be able to lie about matters of fact, and be protected.

So, as they start to unleash a tidal wave or negative press on Trump in a last ditch attempt to stop him, most of it based on at least a germ of fact, but not all of it, the press will be screaming that Trump the tyrant wants to cut off their ability to knowingly lie with no consequence.

Trump is, as he has been recently, a move ahead.

I don’t care if you support his candidacy or not, Trump has shown amazing skills at anticipating the narrative and countering before his opponents can react effectively.


90 posted on 02/27/2016 2:26:45 PM PST by M1911A1
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To: dschapin

He loves the media and they love him. He already owns them. This latest is his way of reminding them.


91 posted on 02/27/2016 2:27:04 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: dschapin
"I'm gonna sue Ted! ...Mexico! ...Marco ...China ...ISIS ...That Little Fcker @ FreeRepublic!"


92 posted on 02/27/2016 2:27:13 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: ground_fog

I bet many newspapers are losing subscribers because of their attacks on Trump. But they’ve got to do it. The Establishment needs all hands on deck to take out ONE GUY.


93 posted on 02/27/2016 2:27:36 PM PST by uncitizen (Investigate Scaliagate!)
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To: GregB

No. It’s a toss up on who is being the most vitriolic when it comes to their candidate and his opposition.


94 posted on 02/27/2016 2:28:02 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: dschapin

“He is running for dictator not president.”

Your claim is histrionic and absurd.


95 posted on 02/27/2016 2:28:19 PM PST by Psalm 144 (El jefe Trump, si! Los dos cholos, no!)
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To: rockinqsranch

Devestiture, or whatever you want to call it, needs to take place in:

Universities
K-12 grade
Media outlets

Government funds should not be paying for an ideology that is sworn to overthrow it. Our universities are 80-90% hard core Leftist. Our government is essentially backing the Communist party at our universities and schools.

That must end. A rough parity in ideological stance should be the goal, and when that parity does not exist, neither does government funding.

Media Outlets serve the public, and during licensing periods they should have to justify how presenting only one side of issues, is serving the public interest.

If they can’t show non-bias in either direction, they should lose their license to operate.


96 posted on 02/27/2016 2:29:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: dschapin

Should publication of false stories be ignored? If CNN ran a story about you molesting poodles would you chuckle and let it go?


97 posted on 02/27/2016 2:29:30 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: patlin

I agree, and I think that’s only reasonable.


98 posted on 02/27/2016 2:30:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: DoughtyOne
By your advocacy there, you have made it clear you think the Washington post should be able to make stuff up and publish:

Another inflated slander attack from a Trumpster. No, that's what you WANT to think he thinks. That's what you PROJECT he thinks. Here's reality: we already have libel laws for media. There are three standards of proof required to win a case:

  1. That it was false.
  2. That they knew at the time they published that it was false.
  3. They had malicious intent.
Under current law, if one can prove those three things, they have a case and can sue for buckets of money. So for you to say that just because we don't want Trump rewriting those statutes to a lower standard, does not mean we wish for those sources to libel or slander public figures.

So, which of those standards do you think we can dispense without infringing upon the First Amendment? Do you think such libel laws should be applied here at FR? If so, it would cease to exist.

So, put up or shut up.

99 posted on 02/27/2016 2:30:14 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: dschapin

Dear Erik Wemple:

You and the Compost have stated many times that Trump has declared bankruptcy three times. You, and the Compost know that three of Trump’s COMPANIES have declared bankruptcy, not him personally.

What should your penalty be?

5.56mm


100 posted on 02/27/2016 2:31:13 PM PST by M Kehoe
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