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To: DiogenesLamp; Ray76; palmer; SteveH; itsahoot; IncPen; Protect the Bill of Rights; JimSEA; ...
Here is the court order.

And here's the court filing posted by Ray76.

The filing (by the FBI) allows Apple to use pretty much any method they like, and does not require them to give the FBI any software capable of cracking phones. It leaves the means (and all the hardware) entirely in Apple's hands.

The only thing that has any relevance is the Court Order.

A court filing from the FBi has ZERO force. It has ZERO effect on anything.

All it is, is a self-serving argument by the FBI, not even filed under oath. It is a CLAIM. Not evidence.

It is akin to a prosecutor's statement of what they intend to prove in an opening statement, but don't even have to stick close to the truth. Apple has not even presented anything yet explaining its legal case; that's due tomorrow.

Apple cannot rely on anything stated in the FBI filing. No action has been taken by the Court on that filing, nor can any action be taken on that filing until the hearing on March 22nd. In fact, if Apple takes action based on that filing, it would be in violation of the Court's order. . . and subject to sanctions!

146 posted on 02/25/2016 11:30:07 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contIinue....)
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To: Swordmaker
Can you guys take your debate off of the ping list, please?

-PJ

147 posted on 02/25/2016 11:31:41 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Swordmaker
A court filing from the FBi has ZERO force. It has ZERO effect on anything.

It represents what the government is asking for. Apple only need to ask the Judge to modify/clarify the court order to restrict it so that it only conforms to these requirements.

Apple's legal staff knows full well that they can do this. The problem is that Apple just does not want to do it.

Once again, Apple has the capability to do this without creating a potential threat to anyone else. They just don't want to.

150 posted on 02/25/2016 11:46:13 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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