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The facts on Rubio, Cruz, and immigration [votes Rush is talking about right now]
Washington Examiner ^ | December 21, 2016 | Byron York

Posted on 02/23/2016 11:14:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What disqualify Rubio was what he said in Spanish. He’s a snake


21 posted on 02/23/2016 11:50:26 AM PST by 4rcane
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22 posted on 02/23/2016 11:51:17 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I was responding to the caller on Rush at that time, I wasn’t clear about that, sorry.

Rubio is as bad as Yeb!


23 posted on 02/23/2016 11:51:18 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I know. I was too.

: )


24 posted on 02/23/2016 11:51:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rubio explaining his positions on amnesty
25 posted on 02/23/2016 11:57:40 AM PST by Donglalinger
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Don’t forget Mark Twains advice concerning “arguing with a fool”.


26 posted on 02/23/2016 12:04:18 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: pilgrim

Lol. As a former NH resident, I’m OK with that. We have a pretty bawdy sense of humor. That’s part of his appeal there!


27 posted on 02/23/2016 12:06:47 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (Tan Hairpiece Eminent Domain Trump Curse Word French Poodle Forgot To Put Toilet Seat Down)
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https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/secure-the-border/

https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan-summary/

https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/


28 posted on 02/23/2016 12:07:15 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: To Hell With Poverty

OK! LOL!!!

Seem to remember doi.............

NO will not go there!!!


29 posted on 02/23/2016 12:09:33 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: TBP; Cincinatus' Wife; All

From post#1
“Cruz’s amendment - which called for stripping out a pathway to citizenship, but keeping a path for legalization - would have done precisely that.”

At least you folks are finally admitting Cruz was for LEGALIZATION of illegal aliens.

What did the Candidates say about immigration in their announcement speeches?

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3396178/posts

It is very instructive to go back and look at what candidates Cruz, Rubio & Trump thought was important and mentioned in their announcement speeches. This was the time to present what issues THEY thought important to them and and the American people.
Trump outlined so many issues while Rubio and Cruz just talked about Cuba and themselves.
Here is their (Trump, Cruz, Rubio) total remarks on IMMIGRATION...later we will do trade, terrorism, 2nd amendment, Obamacare and education.

Trump June 16 , 2015

When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically. The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems. (APPLAUSE)

Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people. It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably — probably — from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast. (APPLAUSE)

I will immediately terminate President Obama’s illegal executive order on immigration, immediately. (APPLAUSE) I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively, I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall. He’s weak on immigration. He’s in favor of Common Core. How the hell can you vote for this guy? You just can’t do it. We have to end — education has to be local.

When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-donald-trump-announces-his-presidential-candidacy/

Cruz Mar. 23, 2015

Instead of the lawlessness and the president’s unconstitutional executive amnesty, imagine a president that finally, finally, finally secures the borders. (APPLAUSE) And imagine a legal immigration system that welcomes and celebrates those who come to achieve the American dream.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-ted-cruzs-speech-at-liberty-university/2015/03/23/41c4011a-d168-11e4-a62f-ee745911a4ff_story.html

(Cruz’s speech was all about him and your imagination!)

Marco Rubio April 13, 2015 “modernize our immigration laws”

Yep...THAT is it....except for this..

En este pais, ustedes van a poder lograr todas las cosas que nosotros no pudimos. (translated: “In this country, you will achieve all the things we never could.”)

http://time.com/3820475/transcript-read-full-text-of-sen-marco-rubios-campaign-launch/


30 posted on 02/23/2016 12:12:59 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Most FRumpsters just parrot Trumps, "Cruz Lies" and don't care about the facts.

Strange that most supported Cruz wholeheartedly at the time he was fighting Obama & The Gang of Eight.

31 posted on 02/23/2016 12:13:43 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: AuntB

Aunt B that was a lot of work for nothing.

Your cut and past, cherry picking doesn’t change the facts of the votes and their positions.


32 posted on 02/23/2016 12:22:04 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TexasCajun

I know.

It’s really something, isn’t it?


33 posted on 02/23/2016 12:22:34 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AuntB

Thanks for the info - GREAT POST!


34 posted on 02/23/2016 1:21:22 PM PST by conservativesister (And FReepers, please quit attacking each other. We're all in this together.-"JR" i)
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To: TBP

Let’s see if Megyn brings this up at the debate Thursday or if she is muzzled to protect the lying Rino Rubio the Fox channels chosen pretty boy.
If they expose him as the liar he is he is done,so I doubt she will mention this


35 posted on 02/23/2016 1:34:40 PM PST by ballplayer (hvexx NKK c bmytit II iyijjhihhiyyiyiyi it iyiiy II i hi jiihi ty yhiiyihiijhijjyjiyjiiijyuiiijihyii)
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Rubio is a lying RINO he should run as a Democrat
36 posted on 02/23/2016 1:34:54 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: AuntB

Legalization was already in the bill. The Cruz Amendment would make the bill LESS friendly to illegal immigrants.

Ask Jeff Sessions. Ask Mike Lee. They were there and they’ll tell you that Ted Cruz was leading the fight against amnesty.

Trump, meanwhile, has said pro-amnesty things.


37 posted on 02/23/2016 1:41:35 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: ballplayer

https://www.facebook.com/notes/tim-phares/to-the-trump-supporters-the-real-record-on-immigration-and-amnesty/10156280762755177


38 posted on 02/23/2016 2:20:24 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: AuntB

https://www.facebook.com/notes/tim-phares/to-the-trump-supporters-the-real-record-on-immigration-and-amnesty/10156280762755177


39 posted on 02/23/2016 2:20:50 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: HockeyPop

https://www.facebook.com/notes/tim-phares/to-the-trump-supporters-the-real-record-on-immigration-and-amnesty/10156280762755177

Who is the candidate who is tough on illegal immigration and amnesty?

Here is Senator Cruz’s position as of June 2013:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/06/19/cruz_gang_of_eight_bill_offers_the_same_empty_promises_as_1986_reform.html

“This Gang of Eight bill is a disaster. It is the exact same thing we saw in 1986. The last big immigration reform was in 1986, and the federal government told the American people, we’re gonna grant amnesty for the three million people who are here illegally. And in exchange for that we’re actually gonna secure the borders. We’re gonna solve illegal immigration, and the problem is gonna go away.

“Now, we saw what happened. The amnesty happened, the borders never got secured, and now three decades later, instead of three million people, it’s 11 million people.

“11 million, 12 million. We don’t have an exact number, but it is three to four times bigger than what it was in 1986, and we’re hearing the exact same empty promises. What the Gang of Eight bill does is it grants legalization now. It takes everyone who’s here illegally and says, “You’re legal,” and then just like in 1986 it promises, “sometime in the future, trust us, wink-wink, we’ll secure the border.” I don’t think the American people are that foolish. You know, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. If this bill is enacted, it will make the problem worse. If this bill is enacted, in another decade or two we’re gonna be back here not with 11 million, but with 20 million or 30 million people here illegally. This is a broken system. I think what Americans want is fix the problem, stop playing political games, actually secure the border and make a legal immigration system that works.

“Well, the Democrats want this for pure politics. Chuck Schumer was very candid in the Senate Judiciary Committee when he said, “If there is no citizenship, there can be no reform.” This is all about their endeavor. They want to grant amnesty, and they hope to get a lot more Democratic voters, or they want this to be voted down and use it as a political issue in 2014 and 2016.

“On the Republican side, sadly, a lot of the support of it is political as well. You know, after 2012, all of the Washington political consultants and all the mainstream media came to Republicans and said, “You’ve got to do better with Hispanics, and the way to do better with Hispanics is to embrace amnesty.” And, look, a lot of Republicans in Washington were scared. I gotta tell you, I think that political argument is complete nonsense. If you look at the last time we enacted amnesty in 1986, the next election was 1988, the Republican share of the Hispanic vote went down. It is not the case — Hispanics are not the single-issue, monolithic voters.”

I see nothing there that is incompatible with what he is saying now. And furthermore, Cruz (with a couple of others) led the fight against the bill — and put up a petition against it.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/06/20/ted-cruz-launches-national-petition-against-gang-of-eight-s-amnesty-bill/

Meanwhile, here is Donald Trump’s position as of A FEW MONTHS AGO (2015):

(July 26)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/259589/donald-trump-endorses-amnesty-illegal-aliens-daniel-greenfield

“Now, a lot of these people are helping us, whether it’s the grapes, or whether it’s jobs, and sometimes it’s jobs, in all fairness, I love our country, but sometimes it’s jobs that a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I mean, there are jobs that a lot of people don’t want to do. I want to move them out, and we’re going to move them back in.

“I mean, a lot of people don’t understand that, but the DREAMers, it’s a tough situation, we’re going to do something, and one of the things we’re going to do is expedite — when somebody’s terrific, we want them back here.

“I have to tell you: Some of these people have been here, they’ve done a good job. You know, in some cases, sadly, they’ve been living under the shadows. ... If somebody’s been outstanding, we try and work something out.”

[The article continues] This is in line with what CNN’s Chris Moody reported Trump saying during a press conference in Chicago at the end of June. When asked what he would do about the illegal immigrants already residing in the country once the border was secured, Trump replied, “give them a path,” according to Moody.

https://soundcloud.com/glennbeck/beck-blitz-donald-trumppro-amnesty

(As of July 14)
http://liberteanow.us/2015/07/14/2601/

Trump: You have to give them a path. You have 20 million, 30 million, nobody knows what it is. It used to be 11 million. Now, today I hear it’s 11, but I don’t think it’s 11. I actually heard you probably have 30 million. You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that.

(As of August 10 — remember all these dates on the Trump quotes are 2015!)
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422351/donald-trump-immigration-amnesty-build-wall

“Asked about his immigration ideas on CNN, Trump was a mess, beginning with the old “jobs Americans won’t do” canard favored by open-borders proponents (a canard because it always leaves out the relevant qualifier: “at current wages”), then suggesting that we should deport the millions of illegals who are already here only to turn around and bring them back (”I want to move them out, and we’re going to move them back in, and let them be legal.” This process would include those brought here as young children, who will be deported and recycled based on the criterion of whether they are — Trump’s word — “terrific.” What might constitute a federal terrificness standard remains unclear.

“We’re going to do something,” Trump said. “I’ve been giving it so much thought. You know you have a, on a humanitarian basis, you have a lot of deep thought going into this, believe me. I actually have a big heart.”

[The article continues] Deporting some 11 million illegals who have for many years evaded deportation only to reimport them under an expedited legal immigration system, the contours of which currently are undefined, and then granting them some sort of permanent legal status is simply another variation on amnesty, and a complicated, expensive, and thick-headed version of amnesty at that. Like the proposed reform program of 2007, which would have purportedly required illegals to be present in their country of origin when applying for legal status, this isn’t just amnesty — it’s also amnesty-laundering.

These are pro-amnesty positions Trump took JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO (2015)! By contrast, Ted Cruz fought the amnesty bill in the U.S. Senate two years ago. So who is tough on amnesty?


40 posted on 02/23/2016 2:34:32 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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