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Is Ted Cruz Wrong
Washington Post ^ | Feb 23, 2015 | Jennifer Ruben

Posted on 02/23/2016 7:53:13 AM PST by New Jersey Realist

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To: Dr. Sivana

She is establishment GOP. She is a Rubioite. She hates Trump but speaks the truth about Cruz.


21 posted on 02/23/2016 8:10:00 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: DaveyB

If Cruz wins, Hillary wins, and America loses. Pay attention.


22 posted on 02/23/2016 8:10:48 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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To: New Jersey Realist
I am not a Cruz supporter, but I think it's ridiculous to call Trump a conservative. Even this issues he might seem conservative on, he lacks any credibility. He only started espousing these ideas when he needed to to run as a Republican. That isn't comparable to others who have changed their beliefs.

Jennifer Rubin thinks anyone not left-of-center is evil-conservative. She is regularly criticized at FR. How come Trump supporters will suddenly like some part of the liberal media when they support Trump?

Of course, if Rubin even mildly criticizes Trump in two weeks, she will be vilified, and they won't acknowledge supporting her today. Consistency like that, including Trump's, doesn't stand for much.

23 posted on 02/23/2016 8:10:50 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Theodore R.

Mr. Newton Gingrich had the same problem in 2012 after SC and GA: no other state would back him.


And at least he won SC.


24 posted on 02/23/2016 8:12:48 AM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: fooman
Trump may be a change agent, he may put Hillary in prison,

He may give citizenship to unicorns. He may replace the army with walrus operatives. I thought we were just saying crazy things that will never happen.

25 posted on 02/23/2016 8:12:51 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Theodore R.

Gigrich is about as liberal as Trump.


26 posted on 02/23/2016 8:13:57 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I didn’t say he was a conservative. I said he is conservative regarding matters that are most important this election cycle. Baby steps!


27 posted on 02/23/2016 8:14:26 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: nickcarraway

Trump was already on her case.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/127852-trump-says-jennifer-rubin-must-be-in-love-with-marco-rubio-because-sexism-is-how-he


28 posted on 02/23/2016 8:17:00 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist; All

” Cruzers can say what they like but they can not deny that Cruz shifted his position on immigration to line up with Trump. He had no intention of rounding up illegals until Trump sounded the trumpet. As far as the economy goes, I don’t think Cruz ever ran a business so what does he know?”
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Precisely!

What did the Candidates say about immigration in their announcement speeches?

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3396178/posts

It is very instructive to go back and look at what candidates Cruz, Rubio & Trump thought was important and mentioned in their announcement speeches. This was the time to present what issues THEY thought important to them and and the American people.
Trump outlined so many issues while Rubio and Cruz just talked about Cuba and themselves.
Here is their (Trump, Cruz, Rubio) total remarks on IMMIGRATION...later we will do trade, terrorism, 2nd amendment, Obamacare and education.

Trump June 16 , 2015

When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically. The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems. (APPLAUSE)

Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people. It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably — probably — from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast. (APPLAUSE)

I will immediately terminate President Obama’s illegal executive order on immigration, immediately. (APPLAUSE) I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively, I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall. He’s weak on immigration. He’s in favor of Common Core. How the hell can you vote for this guy? You just can’t do it. We have to end — education has to be local.

When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-donald-trump-announces-his-presidential-candidacy/

Cruz Mar. 23, 2015

Instead of the lawlessness and the president’s unconstitutional executive amnesty, imagine a president that finally, finally, finally secures the borders. (APPLAUSE) And imagine a legal immigration system that welcomes and celebrates those who come to achieve the American dream.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-ted-cruzs-speech-at-liberty-university/2015/03/23/41c4011a-d168-11e4-a62f-ee745911a4ff_story.html

(Cruz’s speech was all about him and your imagination!)

Marco Rubio April 13, 2015 “modernize our immigration laws”

Yep...THAT is it....except for this..

En este pais, ustedes van a poder lograr todas las cosas que nosotros no pudimos. (translated: “In this country, you will achieve all the things we never could.”)

http://time.com/3820475/transcript-read-full-text-of-sen-marco-rubios-campaign-launch/


29 posted on 02/23/2016 8:20:32 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: New Jersey Realist
That Time Donald Trump Had A Meeting With DREAMers And Said "You Convinced Me" On Immigration

Two years ago, Trump met with immigration activists who told them their stories and asked for his support on immigration. "You convinced me" Trump said as the meeting ended.


30 posted on 02/23/2016 8:21:15 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ilgipper

That’s it! Present no facts, just kill the messenger. Typical Cruzer tactics.


31 posted on 02/23/2016 8:22:05 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: concerned about politics

You are taking stuff out of context, AGAIN,but you knew that!


32 posted on 02/23/2016 8:24:14 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: New Jersey Realist

I currently favor Trump over Cruz but would gladly support either. I don’t think it behooves Trump supporters to use Jennifer Rubin to try and make points against Cruz.


33 posted on 02/23/2016 8:25:41 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: New Jersey Realist

Yep, she’s a Cheap Labor Express hack and is trying to help the Memorizer Bunny.


34 posted on 02/23/2016 8:25:47 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: New Jersey Realist
U - wonder if the correct title should be posted?

Is Ted Cruz going from bad to worse?

"Conservative commentator" another gOOPe's mouth piece. jmho

35 posted on 02/23/2016 8:27:44 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: New Jersey Realist
Just for the record, Jennifer Rubin is no conservative. I agree however with some of her points. Cruz has changed his position on immigration moving closer to Trump's.
36 posted on 02/23/2016 8:30:21 AM PST by kabar
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To: nickcarraway

There is a circus like quality to Trump.


37 posted on 02/23/2016 8:32:30 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Funding planned Parenthood was wrong under democrats, but under Trump it's now OK?
Ethanol subsidies under democrats was wrong, but under Trump they need to be increased? Now it's OK?
One payer Health Care was wrong under democrats, but under Trump it's now OK?
Stricter gun control laws under democrats was wrong, but under Trump it's just fine?

Is anyone even LISTENING to what he's actually saying on the campaign trail, or are they so armored by the golden boys what he says doesn't matter?

Trump donated heavily to Chuck Schumer, Rahm Emanuel, Terry MacAuliffe, Dick Durbin, and Harry Reid, and he's blaming Cruz for Oboma Care? Really???

Trump says he's going to round up Mexicans and send them packing. Why the change of heart?
"You know, the truth is I have a lot of illegals working for me in Miami," he told them, using the term for undocumented immigrants those in the meeting found offensive. "You know in Miami, my golf course is tended by all these Hispanics - if it wasn't for them my lawn wouldn,t be the lawn it is; it's the best lawn," Pacheco recalled Trump saying.
Trump said he knew the work of undocumented people is what makes his golf courses and hotels great.
"At the end of the day, what were looking at is a value proposition for America," Tijerino said to Trump at the end of the meeting, referring to immigration legislation.
"You've convinced me," Trump said to the delight of the activists in the room.

Will the REAL Donald Trump please stand up? The guy is like Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde!

38 posted on 02/23/2016 8:39:08 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ilgipper
Haha. The Trump peeps now claim Rubin, the NYT, the Chicago Tribune, Kevin McCarthy, and every traditional opponent of the FR community as experts and conservatives to prove their point. All sanity has been lost.

And now Hannity, Levin, Rush, Beck, Right wing media, and right wing radio are the political enemy!
Planned parenthood is a good thing.
Subsidies are awesome.
Single payer health care is the boss!
Yeah! Go Trump!

39 posted on 02/23/2016 8:44:42 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: New Jersey Realist
She hates Trump but speaks the truth about Cruz.

I didn't have time to read her piece today. But if she spoke the truth about Cruz, it will be the first time.
40 posted on 02/23/2016 8:48:09 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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