Posted on 02/23/2016 4:58:35 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
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What if in a few years a new consumer technology like drones could provide cheap, long-range personal transportation for individuals or small families?
Streams of migrants (to use a neutral term progressives would find difficult to boycott) could pack up in Syria and be over our border inside a week.
Their first stop, even before signing up for welfare, would be voter registration.
Arabic would be the primary college minor for Political Science majors.
There would be competing Migrant factions, some allied with the dominant American political philosophy, some opposed.
There would be "good" & "bad" Syrian Migrants.
A proxy, border conflict ignited into an Eurasian Contient-wide war.
With the new freedom of mobility, Syrian Migrants would soon spread the conflict to American shores.
A draft of all young people in their 20s would be called by the future political descendants of Barry and Hillary.
Would the then-equivalent of President Obama require that Syrian Migrants be subject to the draft?
There used to be something called "civic responsibility".
Hollywood war films sometimes went beyond Garry Cooper's trite portrayal of "Sgt. York" to explore the subject for the thinking crowd.
The topic of a debt owed to defend our way of life was in common currency.
How would MSNBC uphold its position as media mirror of the official party line, when the subject was drafting migrants?
Around the same time Congress sent their kids too, I suppose.
I don’t want any of them to be drafted or subjected to a draft. I don’t want them in the military.
If anyone else comes in through the proper channels and has gone through the process to become an American, I have no problem with that.
I don’t believe in the DREAM Act crap. Don’t want any part of it. If they are here illegally, underage or overage, go back to your country of origin, fill out the paperwork, get in line.
I don’t want anyone who has participated in illegal activities as a non-citizen in our military.
What if ONLY non-natives could be in the military, like the French Foreign Legion, le legion etrangere.
A very good point. It has been noted that the US military has primary and major missions for which it is highly trained and equipped with the best available technologies.
However, it is also made to do very extended, low grade, “guard duty” and disaster relief missions that are exorbitantly expensive, and degrade both their training and equipment, making them *less* able to carry out their main missions.
So, do we really want our best and brightest to be doing missions like cleaning up litter, keeping primitives from throwing spears at each other, etc., ad nauseum, at the cost of hundreds of billions of dollars?
A good alternative is indeed to create an American version of the FFL, strictly small arms, entirely offshore never to set foot in the US, but directed by US officers and NCOs, and with their transport, communications and logistics provided by our military.
Non-citizens, “dreamers”, and skilled military personnel from around the world, looking for reasonable pay, but with zero chance for citizenship, with likely two bases: one in the Caribbean and the other in Africa.
The advantages are great. They could do the extended, low level missions that just waste our resources, at a tenth the cost of having our military do them. They don’t get any of the perks of our personnel. They operate only in countries that have non-ICC treaties with us, so they can’t be harassed by those twits.
And they have very generous ROEs, mostly what is acceptable to their host country, instead of the stupid micromanagement forced on our military.
I am trying to imagine our military composed only of military age men from Syria and other middle-eastern countries...
CURRENTLY: YOUNG MARINE: “Ma’am, we need to secure this area. The evacuation facility is a half-mile up the road. If you can’t make it that far, we can arrange for transportation if you can wait.”
FUTURE: YOUNG MARINE: “Whore! Leave this area immediately before we bury you up to your neck and give you a rock shower for wearing those clothes.”
I just see it a little differently. I don’t think any of them should even touch it.
As for the disaster relief and things like that, that does provide value. Apart from the humanitarian end of things and giving our military personnel access to a foreign culture in a way they might not otherwise get, it does teach our military about operating in areas where infrastructure is non-existent or destroyed, how to set up logistics and communications, refugee control, etc. Those are all useful things in a conflict.
As for adoption of ROE, I like the idea of it, but think in practice, it would be terrible. It would still be done under our flag and in our name. Heck, to some of those places, tying a person to the back of a vehicle and dragging them for a mile is acceptable ROE. Replace that vehicle with a Humvee flying an American flag, and the media would love that. Not that our guys wouldn’t like to tie a guy digging in an IED to to the back of a truck and drive away with him, but you get the idea.
Of course that is being facetious, but the point is, if we let them do that according to local customs, it is still us doing it.
And I admit-I see some value in making our military personnel do things that normally they wouldn’t like doing, digging out latrines, policing the area, standing crappy watches, etc. In a combat situation, our military has do do those things, and it also works towards discipline.
Dividing things up would also lead to a two-tier military, which I don’t like the thought of. But I admit to having more of an old school attitude on these things, and there is that.
The illegals are just cannon-fodder to the Democrats.
They serve the purpose of the Democrats, and then they will be sent to the concentration camps of Chicago and Detroit and Saint Louis........
They will spend their lives in these concentration camps licking the boots of their Democrat masters.
I hope they enjoy the taste of boot.
If the law on the draft today is the same as it was during the Korean and Vietnam Wars, then the Dreamers are already eligible for the draft. Every draft age male in the country who wasn’t a tourist or a diplomat, students included, were eligible unless given a deferment for whatever reason.
Okay, to start with, the “value” of experiencing foreign culture.
Would it be better to visit Europe for a couple of thousand dollars, flying tourist class, seeing the sights and maybe taking a budget tour, or would it be appreciably better paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to fly in a Lear Jet, be chauffeured in a Maserati, eating only at five star restaurants, staying in only the most expensive hotels, and doing other things that only Obama does when he visits?
The latter is just too expensive for most people, *for what they get*. And the same applies to the military. They, and the US, are not made of money. For the ridiculously high cost we pay, we should expect mission accomplishment, not cultural experience.
As far as ROE goes, this is why they must have US officers and senior NCOs. Their job is to insure that they are professionally led and behave themselves. These personnel will not be allowed to run amok, like so many UN troops.
This amounts to similar rules as the FFL, who are led by only French Army officers.
Finally, something I didn’t mention is that these personnel are *contract* workers. Otherwise, like US military personnel, they would be vulnerable to social engineering and other abuse whenever there is a Democrat POTUS. Democrats neither understand nor appreciate military forces, and have nothing but disdain for them. And they would downright hate having a force like this they could not whimsically order about as if they were chattels.
This might even require that the US officers leading them be former officers, so they as well could refuse stupid contracts from the USG, like suicide missions, being sent in to hold the hands of diseased Muslims being driven out after trying to slaughter non-Muslim civilians, etc.
The USG has a bad habit of supporting tyrants and villains, so these forces would be able to refuse such contracts.
Personnel would be retained solely on their ability to carry out their orders. So race, religion, gender, etc., wouldn’t count for squat.
Okay. We will disagree.
the draft used to include them, but Obama and friends changed that so that only citizens need die for immigrants to stay and procreate...
No way. Illegals are better than US citizens to liberals. They are entitled to all the benefits of a citizen and welfare without any of the responsibilities.
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