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To: Alberta's Child

>>The dilemma we face is that we can either employ a lot of people in manufacturing, or we can have the highest standard of living in the world. We really can’t do both at the same time.

We did when I was young. But, you are right. Those jobs are lost forever. I wrote some long posts in another thread on this, but our problem is that we lost all the Stage 3 work in the Product Life Cycle, but our education system failed to become one that takes our “highest standard of living” nation to the highest level of education. A nation can lose all the Stage 3 work as long as it keeps the Stage 1 work, and doesn’t just give away the secrets so foreigners can create Stage 2 work for themselves.

We give away the tech for the Stage 2 work. We import educated labor for the Stage 1 work. And we charge thousands of dollars for the most useless Associates degree. Our education system cannot provide what we need to force the government to end the H1-B scam.


71 posted on 02/20/2016 11:54:49 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92
Very good post. It's a complicated issue involving much more than just trade deals and currency exchange rates. As a Freeper astutely noted in a post on one of these threads within the last month or so, U.S. manufacturing employment would be in a steep decline even if we were the only country in the world and had no foreign trade at all.

We did when I was young. But, you are right.

That's true. It's important to note that from an economic standpoint, the post-WW2 period was an exception, not the norm. The U.S. was a dominant industrial power only because we were the one major country in the world to escape World War II with our infrastructure and industrial assets unscathed. Once that reality changed, our dominance began to erode.

73 posted on 02/20/2016 12:02:11 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Bye bye, William Frawley!)
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To: Bryanw92
Our education system cannot provide what we need to force the government to end the H1-B scam.

The laws of supply and demand say you are wrong. When salaries go up in a particular field then more people enter that field. Shut the H-1B spigot off then salaries go up and STEM majors become real popular again. Your Anti American ignorance is why Trump is doing well. Go Trump, go!

We want positive America First nationalist leadership and not what these Cheap Labor Express stooges want. They are throw backs to the NWO whores that need to be put in the dust bin of history.

74 posted on 02/20/2016 12:04:35 PM PST by central_va
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