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You need to inform Ted of that but in the meantime Ted did file with Canada
and renounce his Canadain citizenship. This is a copy of what he received on
5-14-2014 from the Canadain Gov't accepting his renoucement.
Posted on 02/19/2016 9:18:46 PM PST by TBP
I'm a Cruzer but Donald Trump has never been bankrupt. He has taken 4 of his corporations into Chapter 11 but Trump himself has never declared bankruptcy.
If you don't know the difference, and you are a Trump hater, you won't care about the difference.
If I could select a President, it would be Ted Cruz, but since I can't, I'm OK with either Cruz or Trump.
The FRenzied Cruzers/Trumpsters that hate the other guy, baffle me.
Unlike klintooooon, I believe that both Cruz and Trump love America and will try to do what they believe to be the right thing to make America better.
They have different approaches, one is a lawyer the other a business man, so you would expect their approach to solve problems would be different.
I just can't understand the very visible hate.
I’ll believe all of this if you’ll believe all of what a site totally devoted to Trump, says.....
http://dan.hersam.com/tools/smart-quotes.html
The above will clean up the ‘ and “ problems and make the post more readable.
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Four chapter 11 bankruptcies not chapter 7 bankrupties. Difference in that the chapter 11 is a
reorganiztion and the business continues to operate. Whereas chapter 7 provides for selling the
assests and paying the creditors with the proceeds.
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You need to inform Ted of that but in the meantime Ted did file with Canada
and renounce his Canadain citizenship. This is a copy of what he received on
5-14-2014 from the Canadain Gov't accepting his renoucement.
Never been a Canadian citizen? Hmmm, then why did he file papers to give up his Canadian citizenship a few months ago?
That's certainly true. In a personal bankruptcy you stiff the creditors, and give up all your personal net worth. In a business bankruptcy, you stiff the creditors, and keep all your personal net worth.
“Trump has never filed personal bankruptcy. There is a difference between personal bankruptcy and corporate bankruptcy. But I guess you don’t care”
“Trump has a peculiar way of speaking about bankruptcy: He has a deep aversion to the word itself. He speaks of “putting a company into a chapter†without ever answering the implicit question: “Chapter of what? Moby-Dick?†The answer, of course, is the U.S. Bankruptcy Code, to which Trump has taken recourse at least four times over the course of his business career. The chapter in question is the famous Chapter 11, which applies to business bankruptcies. Trump proudly insists that he never has had recourse to Chapter 13, the personal bankruptcy code. This is his apparent justification for saying that he’s never been bankrupt. But of course one of the purposes of Chapter 11 bankruptcy is to keep men such as Donald Trump out of Chapter 13 bankruptcy.”
Trump lies.
Asking Cruz supporters not to be smarmy is asking the impossible. The guy they support defines smarmy.
And while I’m at it the label “conservative” is starting to bother me because it’s something that was worn as a badge of honor to get elected and then betrayed when the office holders got to DC. Anyone can run around saying “I’m CONSERVATIVE”. But if you’re conservative do you vote for TPP, the Corker bill that turned the constitution upside down (how can Levin support Cruz?) and increasing immigration to take jobs in our country with 90 some million unemployed? Is that what Cruz and his supporters call conservative? It takes more than waving the Bible around and emoting about the “Body of Christ”.
I don’t care what label anyone uses ...I want the borders closed or we won’t have a country anymore. I want the goverment to use it’s power to make us to be safe from invaders in our country. I want the government to quit allowing policies that destroy American jobs for Americans.
I want the taxpayers money spent carefully and not thrown all over the world to anyone who isn’t an American.
For me it takes more than labeling yourself.
Nope. I am being realistic. You wait for it. You think Trump is gonna have an easy ride? With a media that is totally devoted to Hillary no matter what?
They are going to work to trump Trump.
They are biding their time and then they will unleash their assault so hard and fast that they will make Hillary look like a choir girl by comparison.
If Trump is the chosen candidate, they will have from June to November to destroy him.
And it will not be pretty.
Since The Rump has said, “She would make a terrific Supreme Court Justice,” yes, indeed it does matter.
And if you thought, with that quip, he was saying he would put her up for nomination if he is elected President, you must’ve confused lead paint chips for potato chips.
Well, let us disabuse you.
Cruz has always been a conservative.
Trump has never been one. He is not even one now.
To support the claim that Trump has had a "conversion" they've told all manner of lies.
First, claiming he has not actually said the things that he's said. Yes he has.
Second, by claiming that his contributions to Democrats is simply part of the "cost of doing businesses" and means nothing. No, it isn't. There are dozens of Republican businessmen with billions or hundreds of millions of dollars who have never done any such thing. They've still been successful in business. [And, BTW, most of them have not bankrupted the companies they've run.]
Third, by telling lies about other Republicans or historical figures, so his own politically bad choices seem less serious. These smears of other Republicans are more unforgivable than his lies about his own history. Bush did not lie about WMD's in Iraq. And despite what the Trumpbots have said, Ronald Reagan was NEVER a "very liberal Democrat."
Reagan was the go-to source of information for actors, directors, and writers when the Hollywood Ten and other communist infiltrators and fellow travelers were desperately trying to take over the writers' guilds and actors' unions. Reagan was mocked mercilessly by the Dalton Trumbos and Humphrey Bogarts of Hollywood, and paid a career and personal price for doing that; yet now we have to hear from these revisionists that Reagan was just like Trump.
No. He wasn't. Reagan stood by Barry Goldwater 17 years before he made his own Presidential run. Reagan describes his own "conversion" thus: "I didn't leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left me."
Does that sound like the "conversion" of a "very liberal" Democrat? Now go back and look at what Trump believed as recently as a few yeas ago. The objection to Trump isn't personal. It's political. He's a liar, an opportunist, and a fraud and if he's elected President of the United States he will no more "build a wall" than he will build a successful casino business in Atlantic City.
Even if he opts not to put his liberal, pro-abort sister on the Supreme Court, that he thinks she’d be a great justice indicates that he would look for someone like her — and that’s exactly what we don’t need. We need a justice as much like Scalia as possible.
Ted Cruz is committed to putting originalists on the Court. I don’t know that Trump would.
The bankrupticies were all business related. Nothing about politics here.
And if you think that a man who describes a far left 100% NARAL compliant judge as someone who'd "make a terrific Supreme Court Justice," you've confused a liar, a fraud, and an opportunist with a conservative.
No conservative would characterize Trump's sister as anything other than what she is: a disaster who would be a terrible SCOTUS Justice, who should never have been appointed to the Federal bench in the first place.
The typical Trump response: "My Messiah has never said the things he's said. Or if he said them, he didn't really mean them."
Is there literally nothing you won't excuse from this disgusting liar?
It’s not all that different. He is his businesses, after all. It’s not as if they’re owned by a big corporation in which you and I could buy stock.
In any event, FOUR bankruptcies, whether personal or business, indicates he’s a bad handler of money and has erratic judgment. That concerns me in a potential president.
And I’m from New York and I always liked Trump. But there are a lot of people I like whom I wouldn’t want to be president. Frankly, we have better choices available.
The fact that they weren't personal bankruptcies is completely irrelevant.
I am NOT "presuming" nor assuming anything; but rather, going by what I see constantly posted by other posters. Would you care to explain that?
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