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To: BfloGuy

The killer worked for the county and was issued this phone. He did not return it. The idea they could have retrieved it from te cloud is horseshit. Farook stopped backing it up to his cloud account 6 weeks earlier. It’s in all the papers. That is why this solution, like all the manure about not being able to comply, is bogus. And they ere in a hurry because the phone was found on the backseat of the car the killers were driving until they got aerated. The faster you recover info on a terrorist cell, the better the intel. If you appreciate the value of the 4th amendment to prevent people who have done wrong from hiding information, then you should be in favor of getting intel on the people who KILLED 14 PEOPLE.

The full text of both the court order (it’s short, and fairly plain (tech) English), and Apple’s response, are below, but to us one interesting aspect of the court order is this paragraph:

Apple’s reasonable technical assistance shall accomplish the following three important functions: (1) it will bypass or disable the auto-erase function whether or not it has been enabled; (2) it will enable the FBI to submit passcodes to the SUBJECT DEVICE for testing electronically via the physical device port, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, or other protocol available on the SUBJECT DEVICE and (3) it will ensure that when the FBI submits passcodes to the SUBJECT DEVICE, software running on the device will not purposefully introduce any additional delay between passcode attempts beyond what is incurred by Apple hardware.

Now, it’s important to understand that in legal documents such as court orders, the word “shall” has a very specific meaning. It means “you will do it, no ifs, ands or buts”.

What Apple is being ordered to do in the above paragraph is to basically disable the time-out function that happens when you put the wrong passcode into an iPhone, and the ultimate destruction of the data on the phone after too many attempts, so that the FBI can attempt to discover the passcode and unlock the iPhone.


41 posted on 02/19/2016 5:25:16 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump, (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NY) /s)
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To: jessduntno

http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/full-explanation-of-court-order-to-apple-to-unlock-san-bernardino-shooters-iphone-and-apple-refusal-full-text-of-court-order-and-tim-cooks-letter-included/


48 posted on 02/19/2016 5:26:46 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump, (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NY) /s)
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To: jessduntno
The faster you recover info on a terrorist cell, the better the intel. If you appreciate the value of the 4th amendment to prevent people who have done wrong from hiding information, then you should be in favor of getting intel on the people who KILLED 14 PEOPLE.

That's why its so good that they had the pass code IMMEDIATELY. After all, that's what the county IT guy used to change it - right? So what, exactly, is your point?

64 posted on 02/19/2016 5:31:58 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: jessduntno

“so that the FBI can attempt to discover the passcode and unlock the iPhone.”

And once that capability is implemented, they can do that to ANY iPhone just by citing precedent. They can, by court order, send 10,000 phones per month for safe unlocking. To keep the children safe.


83 posted on 02/19/2016 5:39:35 PM PST by DBrow
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To: jessduntno

It sure sounds like they only care about the “subject device”. So is Apple just making hay by inferring that complying requires them to modify all future iphones or whatever?


87 posted on 02/19/2016 5:40:45 PM PST by visualops (Why yes, I am on the #TrumpTrain. I'd like to win for a change.)
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To: jessduntno

According to Apple:

“The FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system, circumventing several important security features, and install it on [the shooter’s] iPhone,” Cook added. “In the wrong hands, this software — which does not exist today — would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone’s physical possession.”


89 posted on 02/19/2016 5:41:02 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: jessduntno

That’s a request for proposals, not a writ. It is demanding, for free or fee, with no option as to declining the request. That’s not how a request for proposal is supposed to be done. They want to hire a company to perform this duty, publish the request and see if anyone answers. But a writ is not the right method.


172 posted on 02/19/2016 6:52:49 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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