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To: jessduntno
They don't need to "invent" anything. They need to keep the autodestruct from being triggered.

And how, oh sage, do you suggest they do that without inventing a method to do so? Pull it out of thin air? Wave a magic wand? How are they to produce this RAM card, without creating the software on it, which Apple says does not currently exist?

There ain't no such beast as "one-use" software. Once it is developed, it won't be undeveloped. That's like demanding a recipe be formulated to bake one cake. This isn't about making the cake, it's about being forced to create the recipe, because if that is done, everyone will want cake. The government is big on forcing people to bake cake.

307 posted on 02/22/2016 4:53:49 PM PST by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: LexBaird

Lex as much as I enjoy good spirited debate I believe this to be a lost cause with Jess. But I applaud you for fighting the good fight. Once he spouted off about him hoping I never had children abducted or a will to contest it became personal. Then the break into personal profiles and win ratios and other muck, conclusion is already defined in their minds we shall not end on the same lines.
I wish I could convey my personal background and connections as to why I believe the way I do about this issue but I can’t. So I will just be a random poster on a forum.

But to mrsmith I would convey that the day is indeed arriving where one will choose. Do the people have a right to use encryption? Or shall we fall back to DES 3DES and become subject to ITAR in our own country.

https://www.schneier.com Who I’ve had the pleasure of working with on a previous project has a excellent write up, and I strongly encourage everyone to read it. I believe it to be spot on from a technical standpoint.

And I really hope we don’t continue being spammed by copy and paste geniuses.


308 posted on 02/22/2016 5:40:27 PM PST by light-bulb (Plures efficimur quotiens metimur a vobis; semen est sanguis Christianorum)
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To: LexBaird

“There ain’t no such beast as “one-use” software. Once it is developed, it won’t be undeveloped. That’s like demanding a recipe be formulated to bake one cake. This isn’t about making the cake, it’s about being forced to create the recipe, because if that is done, everyone will want cake. The government is big on forcing people to bake cake.”

Well, this is exactly how stupid your argument is. The govt. DOES NOT WANT THE PHONE OR THE CODE. They want the information on the phone. They don’t care how Apple gets it. Until Cook admitted it already existed, the court offed to pay for it! (also covered in the order I provided you). So, following your twisted logic, because either you refuse to read the order or just want to wring your hands and whine like a girl, the threat of letting the key loose to roam the world would and could only be the threat of APPLE DOING IT!!

It’s bullshit. Apple knows it and most adults above 12 know it. Cook says it already exists. The feds (if you STILL haven’t read the order) don’t want the phone back, don’t want the “master key” or anything of the sort. Since this is the fifth time you’ve insisted that poor poor Apple is under assault because of the massive problem with the “magic Key” I suggest you read the information that is out there. Goodnight, sweetheart. Sweet dreams.


309 posted on 02/22/2016 7:15:14 PM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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