Posted on 02/19/2016 9:36:10 AM PST by RightSideNews
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I share your feelings WRT Kennedy’s social nonsense, but as to his economic policies, we would have collapsed soon without his tax cuts, and he did give his life because of them.
Reality can be tough when one is busting his ass to be partisan.
It’s because she has daddy issues
You are my role model.
Reagan was never a pro-abortion. The issue was much less polarizing in 1967 then it is today. He signed that bill thinking he could soften it since he was going to be vetoed.
After admitting to signing that bill being a mistake, he took up the mantle of life. Unlike Trump, Reagan never promoted abortion nor did he seek to support it. Trump did both, vigorously, especially partial birth.
The notion that Conservatives are looking for the perfect candidate is folly used by Trump supporters to deflect the fact that he's not conservative at all. You look for the candidate that promotes and believes in the principles of the cause. The perfect human does not exist.
You have identified one issue with Reagan upon which he changed his mind. Ok, this can be forgiven and if Trump had the same wake up then I would agree that it's human to evolve.
But with Trump it's not just abortion that he defended and promoted.......
Progressive taxes (still does) - one time wealth tax - Universal health care (still does) - Affirmative Action (still does) - eminent domain (still does) - assault weapons ban - no touching SS or Medicare (still does). To name some.
Trump can never be compared to Reagan on any level in any way, most importanly never on core principles.
No modern day Conservative has ever been a registered Democrat in favor of so many left wing causes as Trump.
Before June 2015 he was just another NY liberal. Now he's a “pragmatist."
But Conservative principles are not living and breathing. Either you believe in them with your core, or you find reasons why they don't quite fit for the sake of victory.
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Benjamin Franklin
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Keep on rolling in your own feces.
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It contains some great insights into Kennedy, who distrusted the older generation and especially the culture of the military (some of the descriptions remind me of Obama). He dismantled the national security apparatus he inherited from Eisenhower. This broke the chain of communication between JFK and the military. It played a major role in his Cuba fiasco, and also his Southeast Asia policy. He bungled Laos which set up Vietnam as the major point of conflict between the Soviet bloc and the West. Worth reading.
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Well stated!
Dittos.
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The US war effort in indo-china began in the mountains of Laos in about 1956.
For about half of 1955, a few hundred special ops men were trained in the languages of southeast asia at the Monterey linguistics school.
There was absolutely nothing dishonorable about any part of the military effort there, from beginning to end.
The pull-out is what was dishonorable.
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Yes, and there is no secret that he arranged the assassinations of Vietnamese leaders whom he did not like. He also backed the UN war against Katanga, which was one of the most vicious attacks on traditional values of the era. The man was utterly contemptible.
Is there a quote from Trump where he promotes abortion?
The best that the Washington Post could come up with to demonstrate Trump's change of position was this:
Abortion
Then: On "Meet The Press" in 1999, Trump said he was "very pro-choice." "I hate the concept of abortion," he said. "I hate it. I hate everything it stands for. ... but I just believe in choice."
Now: In an interview with Bloomberg Politics in January, Trump said, "I'm pro-life and I have been pro-life." He said he believed there should be exceptions in cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother.
“Yes, and there is no secret that he arranged the assassinations of Vietnamese leaders whom he did not like”
Absolutely. This is very little remembered in America, but Kennedy set in motion the assassination of President Ngo Dinh Diem, the first and only leader South Vietnam had known.
This set in motion years of chaos in the leadership of South Vietnam and helped push Lyndon Johnson into sending American combat troops into the country to keep it from falling apart.
Rusk & McNamara were not on our side; rather they were pursuing their own version of a Leftwing Revolutionary ethos, on a a global scale. I deal with this in the Chapters in the Conservative Debate Handbook on Foreign Policy & Democracy In The Third World.
No our career military were indeed honorable men. The Government under JFK & LBJ were not.
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What was far worse than SE Asia, was the capitulation to the UN massacre that was carried out by US and Canadian forces in Katanga.
Katanga was a solid democratic province of the Congo, and the backbone of the entire country.
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My question to you is why would you back a candidate who states he's “very pro-choice” yet hates abortion? That doesn't even make sense. Not to mention the fact that he wouldn't ban partial birth which is barbaric.
I gave you the life thing anyway. Fine, he had his coming to Jesus moment and is now on board. Good for him and good for us. But you cited Reagan here so on that comparison, it was easy to take it down.
He's not a Conservative. Maybe most of his supporters are not too and that's fine. Freewill. But we Conservatives know he's not and trying to compare him to Reagan to prove it just makes it look a bit off center.
Laos is addressed in McMaster’s book.
Kennedy’s willingness to accept a defacto partition of Laos, giving Communists allied with Ho Chi Minh control of the border with Vietnam, set up Vietnam as their next target. And one that would prove much harder to defend than Laos would have been, had Kennedy not suffered a failure of will.
This was one of Kennedy’s great failures as President. It set in motion the Vietnam War.
“There was absolutely nothing dishonorable about any part of the military effort there, from beginning to end. The pull-out is what was dishonorable.”
Nothing dishonorable, but it was doomed by the defensive, gradual, start and stop nature of Johnson’s strategy. Neither Johnson nor Nixon was willing to win the war by doing to North Vietnam what we had done to Tokyo and Berlin only twenty years earlier.
“My question to you is why would you back a candidate who states he’s “very pro-choice” yet hates abortion? “
Because that’s not his position now, is it?
That interview was 16 years ago. People change.
Reagan signed abortion into law 1 year before he first made a run for the nomination. 9 years before he challenged Ford for the nomination. 13 years before he was elected. This is 16 years.
LBJ used the Vietnam War to prop up the Stock Market. There is a 36 year cycle, in the Anglo American world—in Britain since 1821, in America at least since 1857. Note the crash sequence 1857, 1893, 1929! The market topped out at 1000 in December 1965, but LBJ being savvy and totally corrupt, deliberately masked the 1929 reprisal by inflating the money supply via “guns & butter,” at the same time. The hapless Jummy Carter paid the price for what followed in the late 1970s, which was only arrested by the ridiculously high interest rates engineered by Paul Volcker.
” and he did give his life because of them.”
So... Oswald’s motive was a secret love for high marginal tax rates? And not his open Communism?
There’s a number of cycle theories in economics. Kitchin cycle, Juglar cycle, Kuznets swing, and Kondratiev wave among them. They aren’t deterministic, much to the chagrin of many market timers. Johnson owes a good deal of the prosperity of his time to the Kennedy tax cuts, deficit spending, and Europe still rebuilding.
Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon failed to address the Triffin Dilemma and Nixon junking Bretton Woods gave us the inflation of the 70s. Nixon and Carter both employed price controls. Reagan wisely adopted the supply side ideas which Democrats Lloyd Benson and Russell Long had been toying with in the Carter years.
https://www.independent.org/pdf/tir/tir_07_3_roberts.pdf
Agreed it was some time ago..........but who can pinpoint when he changed? Doesn’t matter, he did. Just found it odd that he would not oppose partial birth abortion but says he hates abortion. Reeks of political expediency.
But.....this is the one issue I’ll relent to you on. The others are all in doubt as to where he stood, stands, will stand.
As I said, no true Conservative has been on the other side of so many principles as Trump. Hence why he’s not one.
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