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Trump Is Right on Trade
Townhall.com ^ | February 19, 2016 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 02/19/2016 6:56:22 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Buckeye McFrog
After a thirty year test drive, I think most voters agree.

At least those of us without half our brain lost listening to the doomers/gloomers of the RNC/GOPe on radio and tv.

41 posted on 02/19/2016 8:43:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say hell no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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To: Kaslin; 1rudeboy; AuH2ORepublican

Bernie Sanders is wrong on trade.


42 posted on 02/19/2016 8:44:35 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Regulator
Heres a hint, bubba: dont buy foreign crap. Then no tariff.

Tariffs don't raise the price of American goods?

43 posted on 02/19/2016 8:44:36 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: datura

“Post war Germany was made possible by the Marshall Plan and American tax dollars ...”

... in combination with the “economic liberalism” (in the free market sense of that term) of Economics Minister Ludwig Erhard. The Japanese approach was very different, and combined industrial cartels with high tariffs.


44 posted on 02/19/2016 8:44:55 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: ReaganGeneration2
Tariffs are bad for consumers, and require more bureaucracy to impose fairly (e.g., how much of a stove is assembled in the US?). No more taxes.

Tariffs are not, out of hand, bad for consumers. And you don't have to figure out how much of the stove is built in the US. If the stove is built in the US there is no tariff on the stove, any imported parts are subject to a tariff when they enter the country. It's pretty simple. If that makes the stove too expensive compared to models built entirely in the US with US made components, too bad.

45 posted on 02/19/2016 8:50:01 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: samtheman

Keep the faith and your crossed fingers!:)


46 posted on 02/19/2016 8:50:36 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say hell no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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To: DugwayDuke

In other words, you didn’t read the thread or you didn’t understand it....


47 posted on 02/19/2016 8:51:37 AM PST by JBW1949
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To: AuntB

Trump’s the only one talking about trade because he’s the only one who knows any damned thing about the subject! The rest just mouth the ideologically correct lines about the need for Free Trade, and the wonderful benefits of the global economy.


48 posted on 02/19/2016 8:52:52 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Kaslin

bkmk


49 posted on 02/19/2016 8:55:27 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Kaslin; don-o; sickoflibs
Tariffs don't work in a world driven by credit. You need only to look at Bush's steel tariffs in 2002 for that. It killed workers and did not save one of the steel companies that was in bankruptcy when it was announced.

History - it's not just for books anymore.

Just as with Ann Coulter, you can add PB to clown posse lining up behind Trump. Jimmy Carter leads that crap pack.

50 posted on 02/19/2016 8:55:29 AM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Kaslin

Economic nationalism is one of those concepts American heartily approve of - in theory. When it is their own money at the cash register, “Made in the USA” suddenly becomes far less important.


51 posted on 02/19/2016 9:03:26 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: rollo tomasi
That was not Bismarck's Germany. That was Wilhelm II germany. From Wiki:

In 1888, the German Emperor, Wilhelm I, died leaving the throne to his son, Friedrich III. The new monarch was already suffering from an incurable throat cancer and died after reigning for only 99 days. He was succeeded by his son, Wilhelm II, who opposed Bismarck's careful foreign policy, preferring vigorous and rapid expansion to enlarge Germany's "place in the sun".[84]

52 posted on 02/19/2016 9:05:24 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: JBW1949

He understands it just fine. What part of that reply don’t you agree with? You want to increase prices at the expense of consumers. Since when is it conservative to increase taxes and government control of the economy, while forcing higher prices on those who can’t afford it?


53 posted on 02/19/2016 9:05:25 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: JBW1949

I truly understand the misguided logic behind all these tariff threads. Pretty simple, if we place tariffs on imports, we can create high paying jobs here in America. Our standard of living will increase because we are paid more. The increase in our wages will more than pay for the increase in the price of goods.

It’s a variation of the “lets all get wealthy by increasing the minimum wage” argument.


54 posted on 02/19/2016 9:06:37 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Mase
We should increase taxes and the power of government over the economy to protect American industry from competition!

Absolutely we should increase taxes on foreign businesses. And decrease them - especially the income tax - on U.S. businesses and people.

And yeah, we do want to vote to protect American industry from unfair competition from foreign countries - why be suckers?

And as for your contorted interpretation of Marx, that's hilarious. So the U.S. having customs is "marxism"?

Who knew: the U.S. were founded as a Marxist state....learn something new every day.

Like, some people are idiots spouting slogans.

55 posted on 02/19/2016 9:07:56 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Mase

Tariffs create incentives for American companies to KEEP American goods to be manufactured out of the country. This creates JOBS for the American people.
The cost of the goods doesn’t change because if the companies OUTSIDE the US have to pay the tariff fee, they are just as well off to build the product here.

The increase you speak of is NOT on a company that manufactures the goods in the US, only on those who left.


56 posted on 02/19/2016 9:23:30 AM PST by JBW1949
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To: DugwayDuke

Not even close.............


57 posted on 02/19/2016 9:25:05 AM PST by JBW1949
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To: DugwayDuke
OK, fine. Get rid of the welfare programs. But don’t force your fellow Americans to pay for the inflated price of your goods.

Like most so-called free traders, you missed it. What do plan for all those welfare recipients once you end the programs? We have the lowest workforce participation rate now for several decades. There are nowhere near enough jobs to move the unemployed and welfare recipients to productive jobs.

This nation would be far better off financially producing most of its own goods and services and having a true, high employment rate, and several hundred billion annually less spent on poverty programs.

58 posted on 02/19/2016 9:26:57 AM PST by Will88
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To: riverdawg
True, but the post-war Germany “miracle,” especially in the critical first ten years, was accomplished by embracing the free market principles of Ludwig Erhard, not the protectionist proposals of Pat Buchanan and Donald Trump.

Oh, is that a fact?

The standard VAT rate for importing items into Germany is 19%, with certain products, for example books, newspapers and magazines, attracting VAT at the reduced rate of 7%. VAT is calculated on the value of the goods, plus the international shipping costs and insurance, plus any import duty due.

Duty Calculator Germany

59 posted on 02/19/2016 9:40:30 AM PST by Will88
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To: DugwayDuke

Quote:

“Tariffs are no different. Higher prices are not in the interest of the consumer.”

But unemployment, welfare, drug addiction, decaying infrastructure, dying towns, urban warzones, and low paying service jobs are?

Take a world tour. Just see the Space Age airports in China, Singapore, the Arab States, even the EU, then come home to America. You will think you landed by mistake in Soviet Russia circa 1989.

America is dying. It’s time for people to wake up before it’s too late.


60 posted on 02/19/2016 9:44:14 AM PST by TTFlyer
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