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Donald Trump on Obamacare: "I Like The Mandate"
Youtube ^ | 2/18/2016 | Trump

Posted on 02/18/2016 9:54:35 PM PST by kik5150

From tonight's town hall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIozz7lgUz0

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; becauseheisaliberal; cruzbotnightshift; gangof14; justlikeobama; obamacare; propagandadujour; tds; tdscoffeclutch; tedspacificpartners; trump; usualsuspect; whatliberalssay; willthemudstick
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To: GeaugaRepublican

A position Trump stole from Cruz.

11 months ago...

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/234499-cruz-unveils-obamacare-alternative

Cruz’s bill, called the Health Care Choices Act, would allow people to buy health insurance across state lines, long a Republican health policy goal.


121 posted on 02/19/2016 12:08:57 AM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: kik5150

you have an interesting view of sentence structure

Well I like the mandate. OK. So here’s where I’m a little bit different. I don’t want people dying on the streets and I say this all the time

Tell me where in that you find him saying that he is different in the way you say.


122 posted on 02/19/2016 12:09:15 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: fireman15

Trump’s plan is not a plan. Like most of his statements it’s a vague proclamation of shiny, happy, wonderful things he promises he is going to do. HOW you do something like provide universal health coverage means EVERYTHING. Obamacare is the only thing that’s been invented that even comes close other than full on socialized medicine. If there’s another way, Trump needs to tell us what it is, because no one is known to have invented one yet.


123 posted on 02/19/2016 12:11:15 AM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: map

If people without insurance want their medical bills paid, they need to look to private charity or churches. It’s not the taxpayer’s job to pay the way for freeloaders. The government buying people free stuff is one of the biggest problems this country is facing. It undermines our national sovereignty and security in countless ways. It must be stopped if we’re going to survive as a nation.


124 posted on 02/19/2016 12:15:32 AM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: kik5150

OK, here again he talking about taking care of poor people, not the middle class. Sound bite jockeys are scum.


125 posted on 02/19/2016 12:15:33 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - already voted for Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: fireman15
... He never said tonight or has he ever said any other time that I am aware of that anyone should be required to purchase health insurance or pay a penalty ...

He says he likes the mandate and that is what the mandate is!!

You may want to take your own tagline more seriously.

126 posted on 02/19/2016 12:15:50 AM PST by SFConservative
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To: Bidimus1
So a plan subsidized by the tax payer for employees that have a “company” running in the read by Trillions of dollars is the plan he wants to copy. _______________________________ Its subsidized for employees of the federal government like other employers plan but the tables that I inserted on an earlier post delineate what the unsubsidized cost is. Why would buying into the plan be subsidized?

The mandate is only necessary provided if you want .....to provide assistance to families who otherwise would be unable to afford. I don't see allowing folks to buy into the federal group as a big govt. intrusion.

127 posted on 02/19/2016 12:17:28 AM PST by GeaugaRepublican ("Donald Trump is the last hope for America." Phyllis Schlafly)
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To: JediJones

According to what you have posted, Cruz’s bill is dated 2015.

The issues paper I linked to earlier states that as early as 2011, Mr. Trump was for using interstate commerce to force insurance companies to cross state lines.

Cruz = 2015

Trump = 2011

Trump wins : )


128 posted on 02/19/2016 12:18:45 AM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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To: kik5150

At this point nothing that is said can get me on board with Cruz. So I’m with Trump. I don’t need to hear much else.


129 posted on 02/19/2016 12:20:19 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: JediJones
A position Trump stole from Cruz. 11 months ago... __________ You are incorrect.

Donald only beat Cruz by a FEW YEARS. Source: Time to Get Tough, by Donald Trump, p.131 , Dec 5, 2011 Increase insurance competition across state lines

Even if we elect a real president who will get tough and repeal Obamacare, we still need a plan to bring down health-care costs and make health-care insurance more affordable for everyone. It starts with increasing competition between insurance companies. Competition makes everything better and more affordable. One way to infuse more competition into the market is to let citizens purchase health-care plans across state lines. This could be easily accomplished if Congress got some guts and did the right thing. The U.S. Constitution gives Congress control over interstate commerce. But for whatever reason, the Congress has never exercised this power regarding health insurance. They need to.

130 posted on 02/19/2016 12:20:40 AM PST by GeaugaRepublican ("Donald Trump is the last hope for America." Phyllis Schlafly)
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To: Right-wing Librarian

Um that was a paper not a legal attempt shame dgt never won a race to actually try to do any of the “great wonderful shiny low cost high fiber low carb” solutions he cribs from others.


131 posted on 02/19/2016 12:22:46 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: OldSaltUSN
The facts: John Roberts had a conservative track record, and had argued 39 cases before the USSC. He had excellent conservative credentials. He clerked for USSC Chief Justice William Rehnquist. He was appointed by Ronald Reagan as a special Assistant to the AG. He was appointed to the Federal Court of Appeals by GHW Bush. The Senate held at 55 GOP 45 Democrats, but Democrats had the filibuster available to block any G.W. Bush nominee.

Roberts was the best, most conservative Jurist that Bush could get past the Senate. NOBODY IN THE GOP-c or GOP-e DISAGREED WITH THAT ASSESSMENT IN 2005. So, why the new standard now, for Cruz?

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2005-07-20.html Ann Coulter smelled a rat with Roberts back in 2005. Read it and weep because what she wrote about him panned out. And there was a Republican Senate so GW Bush did not have to nominate a blank slater like Roberts. You do this when Dems have Senate control. So blame cuck Bush for this wimping out and (again) Anne was so perceptive on this.

132 posted on 02/19/2016 12:24:22 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: GeaugaRepublican

Most of his “plan” back in 2000 we do not know what he means now as is web page is blank on the issue he cribbed from Heritage foundation. feel free to look back and go to link.

oh and to make it work Heritage had a mandate too.


133 posted on 02/19/2016 12:24:51 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Bidimus1

But he’s a successful billionaire, and you’re not.


134 posted on 02/19/2016 12:29:18 AM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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To: Mozilla
Yes that does make djt sound more conservative and believable I must admit. I will if he is the option vote for him in the general becuse djt a modetly conservative democrat is better then the DNC offering. Will you vote any one on the Rep Ticket other than djt ? or are you a Romeny is bad.. I will just stay home to show those GOPe... and get Obama again types
135 posted on 02/19/2016 12:33:25 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Right-wing Librarian

so is a relative of mine, Oil Drilling equipment, he is also probably the last man on earth I would vote for.

Your call to authority fails.


136 posted on 02/19/2016 12:35:21 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Bidimus1

Bottom line: Mr. Trump has a consistent video track record dating back to the 1988 Republican Convention, while Cruz was still a Canadian citizen, a loyal subject of the Queen.

I’ll take Trump and leave you with Cruz.


137 posted on 02/19/2016 12:40:21 AM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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To: Right-wing Librarian

As a librairan surely you have heard of

Essay Concerning Human Understanding by John Locke (1690)

argumentum ad verecundiam being what you tried to use, or in this case more directly a argument from false authority claiming djt is an authority in the a field that he has never been in much less succeed at that being governance.

Much like saying a hall of fame pitcher could correctly work on a C++ program because he was great at being a pitcher.


138 posted on 02/19/2016 12:44:17 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Right-wing Librarian

I see, so you will 1/2 vote for Hillary or Bernie if djt is not on ticket. How sad.


139 posted on 02/19/2016 12:45:30 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Bidimus1

One thing I have learned in my 30+ years as a librarian, is that politicians do not understand government; they only understand how to get re-elected.

Mr. Trump understands government.


140 posted on 02/19/2016 12:48:45 AM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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