Francis tried to rip Trump.
BREAKING NEWS: Pope attacks Trump saying he is ‘not Christian’ for wanting to build a wall (tr)
Daily Mail ^
Posted on 2/18/2016, 9:20:36 AM by TigerClaws
U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is ‘not Christian’ because of his views on immigration, Pope Francis said on his way back to Rome from Mexico. The pope said, however, he did not want to advise American Catholics on whether or not to vote for Trump. In a freewheeling conversation with reporters on his flight back from a visit to Mexico, Francis was asked about Trump and some of his statements, such as vowing to build a wall between the United States and Mexico if he becomes president.
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Sadly, there is nothing new in having a Roman pontiff meddling in the affairs of civil governance. That was one of the causes of the Reformation and reasons why so many supported it. The Counter Reformation forcibly (that is, with the use of naked power, which is the province of government not the church) coerced many into at least superficial obedience. In other words, papal power has never been too shy about the use of the power of the sword, which instrument God gave to civil government only, not to ecclesiastical government. So when the current pope says that the building of a wall is “not the gospel,” he is right. But the proclamation of the gospel is not the task of government! It is the task of the church, which he, Francis I, by blathering about things political/governmental, is failing to do. He is neglecting the prime duty of the church to meddle in affairs that are not his business. Let catholics consider carefully what they are seeing and hearing.
So, again, there is nothing new here. But it remains as sad and shameful now as it was in the time of the Reformation and the centuries that followed.
When the busybody pope tears down the wall around the Vatican, and welcomes the muslin hoards, he can have something to say. In the meantime, STFU.
Im going to tone this down because I have many Catholic friends and family members but let me say this. The Vatican is surrounded by a 50 foot wall. If I was any good with HTML I would show it. Who is this man that has a wall protecting him but wants our country to parish from invading hordes including Trojan horse Islam “refugees” . I think he is a hippocrit.
Pray for America and prepare. .
What mean things did the Pope have to say about Ted Cruz concerning migrants..........*crickets*......*crickets*?
The Pope is a Socialist in the true Venezuelan sense of the word. He is using the Church to help destroy the Free World
since he wants to join The New World Order to fill the Vatican Bank and join the powerful few.
I watched the CNN coverage of this last night while flipping thru channels for the town halls.
CNN used the time to basically say how the pope wanted open borders and no fence or immigration policy - thus anyone calling for this was anti-religious or something.
It’s amazing how the other side distorts the truth to fit their evil ideology.
Go home, If you feel so strongly about it have them all live in vatican city
A communist by any reasonable measure...
All of those are things done to the migrants by - other Mexicans, before they ever get to the United States.
When you live in a City protected by a 39 foot wall, you should be very careful in commenting about others’ desires for similar protection!
Jim, I’m sure you’ve already seen this, but will post it again in this thread since it’s germane:
Donald J. Trump Response to the Pope
If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been President because this would not have happened. ISIS would have been eradicated unlike what is happening now with our all talk, no action politicians.
The Mexican government and its leadership has made many disparaging remarks about me to the Pope, because they want to continue to rip off the United States, both on trade and at the border, and they understand I am totally wise to them. The Pope only heard one side of the story - he didn’t see the crime, the drug trafficking and the negative economic impact the current policies have on the United States. He doesn’t see how Mexican leadership is outsmarting President Obama and our leadership in every aspect of negotiation.
For a religious leader to question a person’s faith is disgraceful. I am proud to be a Christian and as President I will not allow Christianity to be consistently attacked and weakened, unlike what is happening now, with our current President. No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith. They are using the Pope as a pawn and they should be ashamed of themselves for doing so, especially when so many lives are involved and when illegal immigration is so rampant.
FRANCIS, THE MARXIST LIBERATION POPE
CDF head: Pope Francis has close ties with liberation theology
The Tablet ^ | 5/2/14 | Christa Pongratz-Lippitt
http://www.thetablet.co.uk/blogs/1/365/liberation-theology-coming-in-from-the-cold
According to Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Pope Francis has close ties with liberation theology, the same discaterio that once condemned the movement. In the 1980s the CDF under then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger attacked liberation theology as borrowing “from various currents of Marxist thought“.
Few know that Müller is also a pupil of Gustavo Gutierrez, the “father†of Latin-American liberation theology. It certainly, when Müller, the prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith affirms that “Pope Francis has close ties with liberation theology†it makes clear the reason for the exaltation of Leonardo Boff and the most radical leaders of the Marxist Liberation theology with the election of Pope Francisco .
It is a fact that in the Liberation Theology the Gospels are profoundly corrupted by Marxist ideology and praxis, including the promotion of class struggle and the creation of the so called “iglesia popular†(parallel and opposed to the Church), an instrument used by Marxist theologians to support the Marxist guerrillas and regimes in Latin America.
During the Nicaraguan Communist Sandinista regime, they went as far as substituting Christ on the Cross for a naked Che Guevara with his genitals exposed. A “popular church†tried to replace the Church.
“During the ordination in Managua of Nicaraguan Napoleon Alvarado by the Jesuit Luis Manresa, who was Bishop of Quetzaltenango, and who was then rector of the University Landivar in Guatemala City, to the Offertory of the mass of ordination, Napoleon offered a machine gun extolling the Sandinista movement and the Jesuit liberation theologian Fernando Cardinal choosing him as a model of his priesthood at the service of the soviet. “ (Ricardo de la Cierva, “Dark Rebellion in the Church†pag.24)
The Marxist Liberation Theology, although it had its roots in the works of European theologians, it had its largest impact in Latin American, mostly by the works of Catholic theologians. This movement also infiltrated the American churches, and not just only the Catholic Church. Obama’s religious mentor for over 20 years, Rev. Wright, is a follower of the Marxist Black Liberation Theology, a racist anti-white church whose Marxist praxis compels his followers to pray “God damn America†instead of asking blessing for this great country of ours.
The American Maryknoll Order became one of the main promoters of the Marxist Liberation Theology in Latin America. In Colombia the Diocesan Father Camilo Torres joined the Marxist guerrillas and died in one encounter with the government forces. He is perhaps best known for the quote: “If Jesus were alive today, He would be a guerrillero.â€
The subversive activities and collaborationism with the Marxist guerrillas of a group of Jesuits in El Salvador, including his superior, Ignacio Ellacurria, professors from the University of Central America (UCA), was so scandalous that in 1972 the Bishops of El Salvador threw them of the control of the Seminary of San José de la Montaña where there was a Marxist-Leninist cell among seminarians prepared by Dr. Fabio Castillo, who was the rector of the National University.
During the 1980’s,the Mexican American Cultural Center (MACC), located in the San Antonio Seminary, served as the headquarters for the Marxist Liberation Theology in the U.S. This Center, sponsored by Archbishop Patricio Flores, became the Mecca of Marxist Liberation Theology in the U.S. where priests, religious and lay Catholics came from as far as Philippines to be indoctrinated in the Liberation Theology by the luminaries of the movement, which included Father Gustavo Gutierrez’s putative father of Liberation Theology.
In the book store of the MACC you could buy not only the most radical works by the Jesuit priest Jon Sobrino or the Franciscan Leonardo Boff, but you could also buy the bible for the conquest of power by the Marxists, Saul Alinksy’s “Rule for Radicalsâ€, a book dedicated to Lucifer, who he considered the first radical. This manual has proved to be very useful to Barack Obama, who excelled in applying it in his struggle to reach the White House using the Marxist praxis developed by Alinsky.
Spanish Catholic historian, Ricardo de la Cierva has written several scholarly works on the communist infiltration in the Catholic Church, including “Jesuits, Church and Marxism - unmasked liberation theology,†(1986) “Dark rebellion in the Church†(1988), and “The gates of hell†(1995).
Pope John Paul II put Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in charge of confronting the doctrinal corruption that pervaded certain aspects of the Theology of Liberation.
In 1984 the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith published “The Instruction on Certain Aspects of the Liberation Theologyâ€. It was a dagger to the heart of those theologies which, in one way or another, embraced the Marxist fundamental option. The preferential option for the poor will never be well served through an atheist ideology that has brought so much oppression and misery to the world.
After the measures taken by Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI, the followers of Liberation Theology entered in a period of hibernation to apparently resurge with Pope Francis.
The liberationists rejoiced with the election of Cardinal Bergoglio as it seems that they take for granted that he is one of them. One of Pope Francis’ most vocal supporters since his election has been Leonardo Boff, one of the founders of liberation theology, and the most radical of it, a man silenced by the Vatican in 1985, and later by his Franciscan Order because of his attacks to the main tenets of the Church. An exulted Leonardo Boff expressed his feelings: ‘This pope will change the church’, basically, according to Boff, in fact we shouldn’t need a pope. The church could build a network of religious communities which communicate with each other.
CDF head: Pope Francis has close ties with liberation theology
The Tablet ^ | 5/2/14 | Christa Pongratz-Lippitt
http://www.thetablet.co.uk/blogs/1/365/liberation-theology-coming-in-from-the-cold
According to Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Pope Francis has close ties with liberation theology, the same discaterio that once condemned the movement. In the 1980s the CDF under then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger attacked liberation theology as borrowing “from various currents of Marxist thought“.
Few know that Müller is also a pupil of Gustavo Gutierrez, the “father†of Latin-American liberation theology. It certainly, when Müller, the prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith affirms that “Pope Francis has close ties with liberation theology†it makes clear the reason for the exaltation of Leonardo Boff and the most radical leaders of the Marxist Liberation theology with the election of Pope Francisco .
Pope Francis’ opening to liberation theology is in stark contrast with the persecution to a very orthodox order for its adherence to Tridentine mass and the traditional tenets and liturgy that were the standard of the Catholic Church for hundreds of years.
A New Blow Against the Franciscans of the Immaculata -— Pilgrimage Church Refused Them
The Eponymous Flower ^ | April 39, 2014 | Giuseppe Nardi
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3150142/posts
The crackdown is connected with that of the hitherto flourishing religious order under Benedict XVI which changed internally to the old rite and intellectually took a very active part in the debate initiated by the German theologian Pope on the interpretation of the Second Vatican Council. It undertook a defense of Catholic tradition against modernist tendencies in the Church and especially in the training of theologians and priests, which to some was unbearable in the Church, but under Benedict XVI they could not take action against the Order. However, due to the pontificate change to Pope Francis, they were immediately treated with the utmost severity against the Order. The arbitrary act against the Order has overshadowed the current pontificate.
I believe Pope Francis might not be Marxist, but it seems that he is influenced by peronism’s alleged third way between socialism and capitalism, even though, Peronism was a disaster for Argentina.
We pray to God that the followers of the Marxist Liberation Theology are wrong and that Pope Francis is going to prove to be as loyal to the True Faith as was Pope Wojtyla and Pope Ratzinger.
Pope John Paul II was strongly influenced by his first hand experience of living under Communism. Is unquestionable that Bergoglio has been influenced by the Argentinean peronism; a supposedly third way between socialism and capitalism, although in reality is another form of fascism. What is more worrisome is the close relationship of Pope Francis with the most radical leaders of the Marxist Liberation Theology. The liberationists rejoiced with the election of Cardinal Bergoglio, it seems that they take for granted that he is one of them.
One of Pope Francis’ most vocal supporters since his election has been Leonardo Boff, one of the founders of liberation theology, and the most radical at it, a man silenced by the Vatican in 1985, and later by his Franciscan Order, because of attacks to the Church. An exulted Leonardo Boff expressed his feelings: ‘This pope will change the church’, basically according to Boff we shouldn’t need a pope. The church could build a network of religious communities which communicate with each other.
Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller said Pope Francis “is not so much a liberation theologian in the academic sense, but as far as pastoral work is concerned, he has close ties with liberation theology’s concerns. What we can learn from him is the insight that there is no pastoral work without profound theology and vice versaâ€.
In the 1980s the CDF under then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger attacked liberation theology as borrowing “from various currents of Marxist thought“. But a visit to Peru in 1988, when the then Archbishop Müller met Fr Gustavo Gutiérrez OP, regarded as the father of the movement, convinced the him of its orthodoxy. “Liberation theology wants to make God’s liberating actions visible in the Church’s religious and social practice ... It would stop being genuine theology if it were to confuse the Christian message with Marxist or other social analysis,†he explained.
FUPF
Hank
I remember a time when a Pope, a President, and a Prime Minister teamed up to fight an Evil Empire... and won.
Evidently, this clown prefers to see the Iron Curtain come back.
For the record, I was raised Catholic. This man does NOT speak for me.
AHHHhhhh...
This’ll get some interesting comments.