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To: Jeff Head
If history serves, it will probably not be long before you ping your whole gang to your conversation and then consume the entire thread with your efforts...

Nah; I now ping a bunch of FR Mormons; but they; unlike you; have chosen not to respond to me.




Uh; you ARE a Mormon; right?

287 posted on 02/20/2016 10:18:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Uh; you ARE a Mormon; right?


The inadequate blood of the Mormon Christ

But under certain circumstances there are some serious sins for which the cleansing of Christ does not operate, and the law of God is that men must then have their own blood shed to atone for their sins.... If these offenses are committed, then the blood of Christ will not cleanse them from their sins even though they repent. Therefore their only hope is to have their own blood shed to atone, as far as possible in their behalf.... This doctrine can only be practiced in its fulness in a day when the civil and ecclesiastical laws are administered in the same hands.

-- (Mormon Doctrine, 2nd edition, Bruce R. McConkie, 1966, pages 92-93)

 

Blood atonement

Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife, and put a javelin through both of them, you would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the kingdom of God. I would at once do so in such a case; and under such circumstances, I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands.... There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it; and the judgments of the Almighty will come, sooner or later, and every man and woman will have to atone for breaking their covenants.

--(Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, page 247, spoken by  Brigham Young)

 

I could refer you to plenty of instances where men have been righteously slain, in order to atone for their sins. I have seen scores and hundreds of people for whom there would have been a chance (in the last resurrection there will be) if their lives had been taken and their blood spilled on the ground as a smoking incense to the Almighty, but who are now angels to the devil&. I have known a great many men who left this Church for whom there is no chance whatever for exaltation, but if their blood had been spilled, it would have been better for them, the wickedness and ignorance of the nations forbids this principle's being in full force, but the time will come when the law of God will be in full force.

This is loving our neighbor as ourselves; if he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it. Any of you who understand the principles of eternity, if you have sinned a sin requiring the shedding of blood, except the sin unto death, would not be satisfied nor rest until your blood should be spilled, that you might gain that salvation you desire. That is the way to love mankind.

--(Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, page 220, spoken by Brigham Young)


303 posted on 02/21/2016 2:36:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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