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Trump Steals Jeb's Strategy, Tries to Win the Republican Primary Without the Base
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | February 16, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/16/2016 5:21:24 PM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: Did I not tell you? Did I tell you, right here it is in the Wall Street Journal: "Donald Trump Makes Pitch to Democrats in South Carolina." That had to be the explanation for Trump's strategy on Saturday night. It had to be. South Carolina is an open primary.

Polling data's all over the place, by the way. The internal Bush poll for which there are two sources -- so somebody in the Bush camp is leaking polling data, 'cause this is internal stuff -- and the internal polling of candidates we hardly ever see, and, in this case, it's not all that close to the public polls that we have. In the public polls, Trump still has a reasonable lead. In the internal Bush poll he's only got two-point lead, which is margin of error tie. It is 26-24 in the internal. That would explain -- Trump probably has the same data -- that would explain Trump going after Cruz, and he did yesterday, the press conference. Got those sound bites, as I promised. He doubled down on it all today. And then backed off and then tripled down on it. Says he's gonna sue Cruz, now he's not sure if he's gonna sue Cruz.

But, anyway, Trump is making a play for voters other than Republicans. Now, isn't it fascinating, because let me ask you a little pop quiz. Who, in the Republican primary, started out by claiming happily and joyfully that he was gonna win the Republican nomination without the base? Exactly right, Mr. Snerdley. It was Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush and the donor class were gonna win this nomination despite the base. Remember this, now? And isn't it fascinating that the guy who's actually trying to pull that off and may have some success at it is Donald Trump.

Isn't it amazing the way things turn. Yet Jeb and the donor boys were gonna go out and just flood this primary with money. They were gonna divide the conservative candidates in the race. They were gonna divide their money, divide their voter support. And the old rule of politics, that he has the money wins, Jeb was gonna end up scorching the field simply because they wouldn't have anywhere near the amount of money he did.

And look, Jeb is in last place depending on the poll you look at, and there hasn't been any significant upward movement in any way, shape, manner, or form. He brings out former President George W. Bush yesterday. And I don't know.

Have you seen some of the comparisons? Some of the comparisons are why isn't W. running again, this guy is on top of it, this guy comes off as a confident cowboy, all kinds of rave reviews about W. out there, but I'm hearing people say that the contrast from W. to Jeb is not that good. Anyway, I find it curious, that they were gonna race to victory without the base, and Trump is the guy doing it.

Now, in Trump's case, it's not the original -- or maybe it is. You know, maybe Trump has all along known that he was going to make this move in open-state primaries. I told you for the longest time here, Trump's constituency is not just members of the Republican base. It's not just conservatives. It's from all over the place. A lot of independents, a lot of moderates, a lot of what they call Reagan Democrats make up the Trump coalition. But this internal Bush poll, I'm sure Trump has access, makes it look like that he's not gonna have the slam-dunk South Carolina victory. Cruz creeping up so hence the attacks on Cruz. And for good measure he throws in similar attacks on Rubio.

But it is clear that that's what Trump's trying to do. Now, it could be self-preservation or it could be a desire just to smoke the field. If he wins big in South Carolina with a broad-based coalition, then he pretty much thinks that he may be able to hammer the final nail in the coffin, or it could be that he has to do this in order to win and the win might not be that big, because as I say, the polling is all over the place. But the internal Bush poll reported in two different places, there isn't any other pool that has Cruz anywhere near that close. Cruz is gaining, Cruz is outperforming in every primary election, he's outperforming where he stands in the polls. So we'll get into that in detail here in just a second.

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RUSH: Now, let's move on to the Republican race here. There are a series of stories on polls, and some are conflicting. Some are confirming. Let's see. Here we go. First up is the Columbia, South Carolina, The State newspaper poll. Donald Trump is still leading in the poll. This is after the debate, by the way -- after, as they call it, "the explosive Republican debate on Saturday night in Greenville, Trump still leads. The race for second place appears to be narrowing behind Trump, who has 35% after the debate."

Behind Trump's 35%, Rubio and Ted Cruz are tied now at 18%. Now, Trump almost doubles them individually. If you combine Cruz and Rubio, they lead Trump by a point; and that is interesting. Keep that in mind. Cruz and Rubio in South Carolina, The State poll, each at 18; Trump is at 36%. So you have... Well, another way to look at it on the Trump side is that 35% of the electorate in South Carolina, the Republicans. These are Republicans being polled, and Trump's at 35%, and all the other Republicans are picking up the remaining 65%.

And two of them, Cruz and Rubio, combined are at 36%. Public Policy Polling has the same results. In fact, it might be a Public Policy Polling poll. Yes, I'm sorry. The State is where this was published. It's PPP, Public Policy Polling, the left-wing polling outfit out of North Carolina. So Trump 35%, Cruz and Rubio 18% each. On the Democrat side, Hillary leads Bernie Sanders by 21 points. "Sanders is making gains among black voters but still trails by..." Well, it can't be 40, if Hillary has a 21-point margin.

In this story from Breitbart... Let's see if this is the same poll. Can't tell. I guess we'll have to read it together here to find out. "A new poll in South Carolina finds Donald Trump maintaining his large lead among likely Republican voters, but also shows Trump slipping slightly since Friday, while Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Gov. John Kasich edge higher. The new poll was conducted on Sunday by the South Carolina House Republican caucus and follows their previous poll released Friday, ahead of Saturday's Republican debate in Charleston."

The Sunday poll also conducted after the Republican debate on Saturday night. "In the new Monday poll, Trump leads the Republican field with 33% of the vote," So over at Public Policy Polling he's at 35. In the South Carolina GOP poll, he's at 33. That's "down two points since Friday.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Rubio are tied for second with 14%. Cruz is down two points since Friday and Rubio is up one point. Former Gov. Jeb Bush is in 4th with 13% support, edging out Gov. John Kasich, who has 10%. Ben Carson is last, with just 6%" of the vote.

So what can we take away? Well, what we take away here is that in the immediate aftermath of the Saturday night debate, no measurable negative impact on Trump has been measured. But some people say that you need to wait two or three days for something like that to settle in and look at polls taken two or three days after a debate to have a more accurate portrayal of people's opinions on it. Folks, you remember when Trump said that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and not lose any of his support? I think he's fairly close to being accurate there.

We've spent hours on this program explaining why that is, explaining his appeal. There's a guy in the New York Post named Mark Cunningham with another stab at explaining Trump today, which I'll share with you in just a moment. But as I said yesterday, if this performance on Saturday night... Now, let's sum it up again. This was a Republican debate. We had the front-runner extolling the virtues of Planned Parenthood. That's never been done before. I don't even think John Kasich would do it. We've never had that.

Did Romney do it? Did Huntsman do it? I can't remember. I don't think it's ever happened. I don't think a Republican front-runner has ever extolled the virtues of Planned Parenthood, as clearly and loudly as Trump did. Trump also went after, in South Carolina, a revered former president, George W. Bush, who still maintains an 80, 83% approval rating there. He not only went after Bush, he went after him as didn't keep the country safe, the Twin Towers came down while he was president, and he knew there were no weapons of mass destruction.

I mean, he went into this debate and it was clear what he was doing, to me. It's an open primary; Democrats and independents can vote. Trump needs them or wants them, one of the two. Either Cruz is gaining ground rapidly and he needs those votes or he wants those votes to just swamp the rest of the field in the Saturday night primary and put the final nail in the coffin, so to speak. It won't be over if he wins big on Saturday, but it would be closer.

But he's also signaling a bunch of other things that, as the front-runner, to say these things -- and if it didn't hurt... My point yesterday, I'll repeat it: If it didn't hurt, I think it demonstrates even more so the disconnect between the establishment and the people, Washington DC, and the rest of the country expect. And I don't think the establishment even now has any idea the rage, the anger, the betrayal, which is what it is.

The majority of people in this country feel a profound sense of betrayal by the Republican Party, and there's a deep resentment that a bunch of faceless, nameless money brokers, lobbyists, and donors are shaping the future of the country by virtue of neutering the Republican Party. And the outrage at that is profound and deep to the point that if this doesn't hurt Trump, it's just gonna put an exclamation point on how angry, how ticked off, on both sides of the aisle, people are.

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To: nopardons

121 posted on 02/16/2016 8:40:37 PM PST by caww
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To: Kaslin

Rush is confused. He thinks his listenership equals the base. The base is bigger than you, Rush, and most of the base is moving on from you because you’ve lost the ability to see beneath the surface and analyze what’s really going on in the world of politics today. The base is engaged, aware and understands the state of our society better than you do. I’m sorry that the game has passed you by, but that’s what it is. You have gotten intellectually lazy and now rely on platitudes rather than digging deeper to try and understand the political dynamics of today and how they have changed from 20 to 30 years ago. Nothing personal Rush but you’re no longer relevant.


122 posted on 02/16/2016 9:48:12 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: caww

Didums, your silly picture posting just makes you look like the child you are; especially when the photo is meaningless.


123 posted on 02/16/2016 10:32:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: dsc
After the Two Cubans drop out and stop sucking up all the air, Trump will have 75-80% of pubbies, and a solid majority of the electorate.

What makes you think everyone Trump & his supporters have lied about, mocked and ridiculed will just fall in line behind him after his wins the primary?

Trump is playing to the Code-Pink, Planned Parenthood Democrats to fill the void of T.E.A. Party Conservatives.

124 posted on 02/17/2016 6:19:11 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Kaslin
Trump is playing to the Code-Pink, Planned Parenthood Democrats to fill the void of T.E.A. Party Conservatives that don't back him.

When I first ready about Trump being "petulant", I had a pretty good idea what it meant, but I looked it up to make sure.

There is no better term to describe Trump than PETULANT

* childishly sulky or bad-tempered.

* peevish, bad-tempered, querulous, pettish, fretful, cross, irritable, sulky, snappish, crotchety, touchy, tetchy, testy, fractious, grumpy, disgruntled, crabby

125 posted on 02/17/2016 6:26:47 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: nopardons
There aren't enough of you anti-Trumpers to make a difference; though of course we'd appreciate your vote for Trump

Why then with his overwhelming polling leads, do he still act like a Jackass and as if he doesn't need or want our vote?

126 posted on 02/17/2016 6:31:21 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: TheStickman
It certainly looks like Trump will easily get the nomination.

How do you suppose he will then unite the party after his obnoxious, demeaning, petulant behavior, the person attacks - not just political differences towards the other candidates and their supporters?

We see it all over FR, I'll never vote for Cruz, I'll never vote for Trump.

127 posted on 02/17/2016 6:39:23 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Kaslin

I heard this and disagree with the premise

To analyze the Trump effort on historical basis is error. There can be no valid historical comparison between the Trump effort and the Bush effort.

Bush is marshalling troops and resources to fight the last war. That war we can plainly see doesn’t exist.

The Trump voters are in effect a new base. The new base is composed of elements not presently clearly defined but that include elements of groups that have abandoned the base Bush sought to capture.

The trump campaign initially sought the Vast Pissed Off Conspiracy and then in pragmatic fashion enlarged it by doing what worked. Early on, it was not possible to measure the VPOC but we are now measuring it many times a week. We know that Trump now measures the VPOC at as much as 39-42% of Republican primary voters

The VPOC is the new base created more or less right before our eyes

Go Dr Ben


128 posted on 02/17/2016 6:45:38 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: TexasCajun

Fallacious argument/question. You assert Trump’s been “behaving badly” when in fact, he’s been going about the business of winning the nomination. He’s doing/saying the things folks have been clamoring for the GOPe to do for many years now.

I believe he will continue to do so after he has the nomination secured & focuses solely on his next opponent. The make believe “divisions” the MSM & GOPe trying to force down our throats will vanish much as they have in these primaries cuz’ Trump is bringing voters together like never before since Reagan last ran.


129 posted on 02/17/2016 7:03:09 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman

I see your point, Trump IS reaching out to the Code Pink & Planned Parenthood voters.


130 posted on 02/17/2016 7:06:36 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: TexasCajun

LOL!!! That was funny. In a “bitterness is all I have now” kinda way.

Have a nice day!

Go Trump!!!


131 posted on 02/17/2016 7:53:49 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: nopardons

.....”the photo is meaningless”.....

LOL

Actually the Piece is on display as part of a Contemporary Art Collection.....Peter Buggenhout – “The Blind Leading the Blind”.


132 posted on 02/17/2016 8:12:52 AM PST by caww
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To: TexasCajun

I’m of the never vote for Trump.....at this point..... how could anyone of conscious vote for this obnoxious, demeaning, caustic, blowhard individual to Represent the People of this country???....not to mention any who vote for him will be voting for the “Corporate Cronies” he’s going to put in charge of HIS JOB because he cannot do it himself.

A vote for Trump is voting for the unseen “partners” .....people really are “stupid” not to see through this facade he’s delivered wrapped in deception and fraud.

It’s a disgusting embarrassment to see how easily the people have fallen for this .....and if he wins they will get exactly what they deserve.....and they thought Obama would be a ride....


133 posted on 02/17/2016 8:21:23 AM PST by caww
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To: TheStickman
Well, it you can't laugh this election season, one would be bitter and angry every day.

So each day we all go back and forth, some taking things more serious and personal than others.

...and so it continues.

Hopefully before too long, we can focus on the Dems.

Have a great day.

Geaux Cruz !

134 posted on 02/17/2016 10:20:31 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: TexasCajun

“Trump & his supporters have lied about, mocked and ridiculed will just fall in line behind him after his wins the primary?”

Trump & his supporters have not lied about, mocked, and ridiculed T.E.A. Party Conservatives.

Saying that they have is a political dirty trick.


135 posted on 02/17/2016 11:21:38 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: caww
It's ugly, stupid looking, and if one doesn't know what it is, nor the title, then damn straight....IT IS MEANINGLESS AND YOU WASTED YOUR TIME POSTING IT !

I bet it took you a long time to find such a picture; pity that. LOL

136 posted on 02/17/2016 1:47:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

But you played didn’t you....mission accomplished...lolololol


137 posted on 02/17/2016 6:42:43 PM PST by caww
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