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To: SeekAndFind

“Unfortunately, unless we change the law to DIS-INCLUDE babies born on American soil whose parents are illegal, that’s what it seems to be looking like.”

This law makes them citizens, notnatural born citizens.

“Here’s a question -— does a child born on US soil of illegal parents have to be naturalized to get his passport? If the answer is ‘no’, then by law, he is a natural born citizen (whether we like it or not ). Don’t like the law? CHANGE IT.”

No, because the law made him a citizen, but it did not make him a natural born citizen. There is a difference. “a natural born citizen or a citizen”

“In the case of Cruz, it is different. His MOTHER is an American citizen. Therefore, he was born American. I never had to be naturalized to apply for an American passport.”

Yes he could have been considered a citizen, but not a natural born citizen. that requires citizen parents and born here.


180 posted on 02/18/2016 12:31:16 PM PST by Lower55
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To: Lower55

RE: Yes he could have been considered a citizen, but not a natural born citizen. that requires citizen parents and born here.

THAT is the issue in dispute. Some say he is not, some say that he IS natural born by virtue of his American mother.

Unfortunately, the constitution does not explain to us, what the framers mean when they used the term “natural born”. Some use the definition made by Vattel, some by Blackstone’s commentaries.

We don;t know which ones the framers adhered to.

Absent that, we either have to go to court or Congress has to draft a law clarifying it.


181 posted on 02/18/2016 12:37:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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