Posted on 02/16/2016 5:09:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind
If Republican presidential front-runner and business mogul Donald Trump wants to sue Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), over his eligibility to run for president, he's going to have to do so within days.
Wait any longer, and it might be too late to matter.
In a lengthy Facebook post Trump wrote Monday, the GOP front-runner called Cruz "the single biggest liar I've ever come across" and "a totally unstable individual."
Then Trump threatened to file a lawsuit against Cruz claiming he is ineligible to run for president because he was born in Canada.
Legal experts said Trump must act quickly if he's serious.
"It could be that Super Tuesday will end the race, and if he doesn't do it before Super Tuesday then the race is effectively over," Adam Winkler, a constitutional law professor at UCLA, told Business Insider. "If he's going to challenge Cruz's eligibility, he should do so soon."
Rick Hasen, an election law professor at the University of California at Irvine, agreed, telling Business Insider in an email that, "The longer he waits, the more likely a court would say he's waited too long."
ted cruzAP Photo/John BazemoreTed Cruz.
Although most legal experts believe that Cruz is eligible for the presidency because his mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth, federal courts have never ruled on a presidential candidate's eligibility based on the Constitution's "natural-born" citizen requirement.
The potential Trump lawsuit wouldn't be the first challenging the eligibility of a candidate, however.
Winkler said Trump will need to prove that he is being "injured" by Cruz being in the race in order to show he has "standing" to sue. He added that courts have ruled that candidates would be injured -- which would involve losing votes and/or money -- because of an ineligible candidate.
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“If you are wrong about what natural born means then...”
...a natural born citizen president is not a bad thing. But if you are wrong, a foreign president will be the downfall. You already see what a questionable one has accomplished.
“Cruz definitely is a natural born citizen.
It matters little whether you have the cognition, or honor to understand it.”
Cruz was not born a dual Citizen? Dual citizens are not natural born citizens. You can keep up your gymnastics to make him one, but I will never be convinced that a natural born citizen is anything but born in country of citizen parents. That’s what I learned in school, and that’s what I’ve learned researching the subject. But, carry on. There may be some people with no convictions that can be swayed.
The more legal analysis I've seen, the more I think Cruz is actually ineligible.
At the very least, it will make for a hell of a legal battle if he actually wins the nomination.
“The more legal analysis I’ve seen, the more I think Cruz is actually ineligible.”
He is ineligible. Well, if he was born in Canada to a Cuban father. He may be lying about all of it. He may have been born in Austin, Texas, to Willie Nelson.
British common law before 1776 stated that a natural-born subject included children born to British parents outside of the country.
Obama is bad news no matter his citizenship or the merits of our positions.
But you do see that’s not the point, yes?
“But you do see that’s not the point, yes?”
I just don’t want any more Presidents that aren’t 100% US Citizens. Having a Citizen mom gets you 33% there if you were born elsewhere. Citizen Mom and Dad gets you 66% if you were born elsewhere. Citizen mom and dad, born here...BINGO 100% natural born citizen. Rubio, born here, mom and dad not citizens...33%.
^^ My thoughts made simple. Nothing will convince me otherwise.
“British common law before 1776 stated that a natural-born subject included children born to British parents outside of the country.”
This is not Britain, and this is 2016. Cruz is not a natural born citizen of the USA.
Cruz only had one parent citizen. His allegiance was dual.
RE: Are you asserting a Natural Born Citizen has a choice of citizenship??
I am asserting that a person has no choice regarding the circumstances of his birth. He HAS A CHOICE regarding what country he will pledge SOLE LOYALTY to he when he becomes an adult.
RE: The Constitution of the United States. Also, common sense.
Where in the constitution is “natural born” citizen defined?
My common sense tells me that if you do not have to go through the naturalization process to be considered a citizen of a country (for instance, the USA), then, you are a natural born born citizen of that country.
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No, he was not born a dual citizen.
He was born a US citizen, with the opportunity to become a dual citizen.
He never opted to do so.
You were obviously born a conniving deceiver; you could opt out, were you honorable.
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You are full of feces.
Your assumptions are those of a deranged mind.
No act of congress was required for Cruz who was born naturally a citizen of the US by the standards of the time our country was formed.
No act of congress has modified those standards.
Stuff your moronic ideas back up that filthy tunnel they came out of.
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Don’t beat around the bush, tell me how you really feel.
I wouldn’t go so far as to call the ruling “thorough,” I’d call it “concise,” but my example of “perfunctory” is what the 27 SCOTUS appeals rulings on Article II, Section 1 eligibility have been, just two words: “Cert Denied.”
The Illinois complainants have the option of appealing the Election Board’s ruling to a legitimate court of law and hopefully getting a more thorough ruling.
In January the New Hampshire Ballot Law Commission had also ruled that Senator Cruz was eligible.
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I am asserting that a person has no choice regarding the circumstances of his birth. He HAS A CHOICE regarding what country he will pledge SOLE LOYALTY to he when he becomes an adult.”
I agree. But this pledge does not make him a natural born citizen. ALA Arnold Schwarzenegger.
“My common sense tells me that if you do not have to go through the naturalization process to be considered a citizen of a country (for instance, the USA), then, you are a natural born born citizen of that country.”
So you think an anchor baby is a natural born citizen?
“No, he was not born a dual citizen.
He was born a US citizen, with the opportunity to become a dual citizen.”
If his father was Cuban at his birth, He is actually a triple citizen.
RE: So you think an anchor baby is a natural born citizen?
Unfortunately, unless we change the law to DIS-INCLUDE babies born on American soil whose parents are illegal, that’s what it seems to be looking like.
Here’s a question -— does a child born on US soil of illegal parents have to be naturalized to get his passport? If the answer is ‘no’, then by law, he is a natural born citizen (whether we like it or not ). Don’t like the law? CHANGE IT.
In the case of Cruz, it is different. His MOTHER is an American citizen. Therefore, he was born American. I never had to be naturalized to apply for an American passport.
“Unfortunately, unless we change the law to DIS-INCLUDE babies born on American soil whose parents are illegal, that’s what it seems to be looking like.”
This law makes them citizens, notnatural born citizens.
“Here’s a question -— does a child born on US soil of illegal parents have to be naturalized to get his passport? If the answer is ‘no’, then by law, he is a natural born citizen (whether we like it or not ). Don’t like the law? CHANGE IT.”
No, because the law made him a citizen, but it did not make him a natural born citizen. There is a difference. “a natural born citizen or a citizen”
“In the case of Cruz, it is different. His MOTHER is an American citizen. Therefore, he was born American. I never had to be naturalized to apply for an American passport.”
Yes he could have been considered a citizen, but not a natural born citizen. that requires citizen parents and born here.
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