Posted on 02/15/2016 6:12:20 PM PST by VitacoreVision
Bad intel based on one source?
Yeah...those Kurdish children probably died from eating too much candy. No WMDs at all.../s
You know I can’t think of anyone on FR that wasn’t convinced at one time that all the truck convoys and flights out of Iraq and into Syria were for the transfer of the non existent WMD’s.
Even if this article is to be believed (Guardian, after all), the FACT is that the data source told the lies and the governments acted in good faith on information they believed to be true.
In short .... BUSH DID NOT LIE, Iraq did.
No.
“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.” President Clinton , Feb. 4, 1998.
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” President Clinton , Feb. 17, 1998.
“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face .” Madeline Albright , Feb 18, 1998.
” He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983 .” Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
“Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.” Madeline Albright , Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
“There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.” Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” Al Gore , Sept. 23, 2002.
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” Al Gore , Sept. 23, 2002.
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeing and developing weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons...” Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force “ if necessary “ to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have always s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,
“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do.” Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. “[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ... Sen. John F. Kerry (D, M
What, you don’t believe Bush was able to manipulate intelligence with foreign intelligence services and the intelligence from before he ever took office, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7n3ivH3pCQ Surely you jest...
Confessions of an Arab a dozen years later, reported in the most anti-American news source in the world. A few lines may be true, but the conclusions warrant many grains of salt.
A combination of forged documents and a lying informant.
Niger uranium forgeries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries
Curveball (informant)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_%28informant%29
In a February 2011 interview with the Guardian he “admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war.”
“Trump, as he has done multiple times throughout this presidential race, invoked the Iraq War as a way to criticize Jeb Bush for his brother’s actions. “The World Trade Center came down during your brother’s reign, remember that,†Trump told Jeb, eliciting boos from the audience. Then regarding former president Bush starting the unpopular Iraq war, he said, “They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction and there were none. And they knew there were none.†- Donald Trump
The Washington Post reports that in a 2008 interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, Trump said that Nancy Pelosi, who was Speaker of the House at the time, should have pushed for Bush’s impeachment because of his management of the Iraq war. When asked why, Trump replied, for “[getting] us into the war with lies,†a sentiment he repeated on Saturday night. However, the next morning during an appearance on ABC’s This Week, he said, “I don’t even think about it.†- Donald Trump
Though he previously depicted Bush’s actions as deliberate, on Sunday morning he distanced himself from those statements. On NBC’s Meet the Press, Trump backed away from his past impeachment calls, saying, “It may not have been impeachable because it was a mistake.†- Donald “Tell it like it is” Trump
This wound is open and infected. It was coming sooner , I thought but it is here now and it is not going away. The entire illegal invasion was based on a contrived premise. We know that because bush would not allow the IAEA inspectors to finished their reports. They were days away. Why not? 14 UN WMD inspectors going everywhere in Iraq trying to find violations of UN resolutions. They were even allowed access into the Houses of Saddam . This is the absolute and undeniable truth. I watched in horror as we prematurely “ ordered the inspectors out”and started bombing on a lie that there were WMD. We now know the truth and the aftermath. Trump is dead right.
It won’t be long before the Trump supporters start praising Valerie Plame and Joseph Wilson.
Their comments are like an invasion from DU.
Bush did the right thing. What went wrong? The 2008 election.
You got that right.
Pretty sure he had them, because we are the ones who sold them to him during the Iran-Iraq war.
Insanity reigns supreme around here anymore.
Jaundiced reading of the story ... It is plainly stated that both the Bush and Blair Administrations massaged and exaggerated the “intelligence,” that they ignored protocol in not thoroughly vetting and cross checking ... In more honest circles of discussion this is otherwise known as “lying.”
Just look at that post from WENDLE above. Wonder how many times he was zotted in the mid 2000s posting things like that?
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