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Chemical Weapons Found in Iraq Were Not Those Used to Justify Invasion
The New American ^ | 15 October 2014 | Warren Mass

Posted on 02/15/2016 3:45:55 AM PST by VitacoreVision

U.S. troops and U.S.-trained Iraqi forces uncovered about 5,000 chemical weapons in Iraq between 2004 and 2011 and soldiers were injured by these weapons in six instances. However, the weapons had not been manufactured during an active, ongoing chemical weapons program, which the Bush administration cited as justification for the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Details of the discovery of these weapons were published by the New York Times on October 14, in a lengthy, 9,000-word report written by former Marine Corps officer and veteran journalist C.J. Chivers.

Despite injuries to our troops, the U.S. government withheld information about the discovery of the weapons even from troops it sent into harm's way and from military doctors.

"'Nothing of significance' is what I was ordered to say," retired Army Major Jarrod Lampier told the Times. Lampier was on site when the largest chemical weapons dump, containing 2,400 warheads, was found.  

The Times report offered reasons why the news of the discovery of the weapons and the injuries they inflicted on our soldiers was withheld from the public:

Participants in the chemical weapons discoveries said the United States suppressed knowledge of finds for multiple reasons, including that the government bristled at further acknowledgment it had been wrong. "They needed something to say that after Sept. 11 Saddam used chemical rounds," Lampier said. "And all of this was from the pre-1991 era."

Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.

All the weapons found in Iraq were produced during a crash program started in the 1980s for use against Iran during the Iran-Iraq War from September 1980 to August 1988. Since the overthrow of the Shah in the 1979 Iranian revolution, and the subsequent hostage crisis that began with the occupation of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran by Iranian revolutionaries on November 4, 1979 -- after which 52 American diplomats and citizens were held hostage for 444 days -- the United States and the revolutionary Iranian government had regarded each other as fierce adversaries.

With this history, the United States covertly aided Saddam Hussein in his war against Iran. A report in the New York Times on August 18, 2002 referenced then-current statements made by President George W. Bush and his national security advisor, Condoleezza Rice, that Iraqi use of chemical weapons against Iran was justification for "regime change" in Iraq. The article, headlined "Officers Say U.S. Aided Iraq in War Despite Use of Gas," pointed to the blatant hypocrisy of the Bush administration's position, given U.S. complicity in Iraq's earlier chemical weapons program.

When the Times contacted Frank Carlucci, the Reagan administration defense secretary from 1987-89, he stated: "I did agree that Iraq should not lose the war, but I certainly had no foreknowledge of their use of chemical weapons."

Col. Walter Lang, retired, the senior defense intelligence officer at the time of the Iraq-Iran War, told the Times he would not discuss classified information, but added that both DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) and CIA officials "were desperate to make sure that Iraq did not lose" to Iran.

"The use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis was not a matter of deep strategic concern," Land said. He added that Reagan's aides were more concerned that Iran not break through to the Fao Peninsula and spread the Islamic revolution to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

Colonel Lang said that the DIA "would have never accepted the use of chemical weapons against civilians, but the use against military objectives was seen as inevitable in the Iraqi struggle for survival."

The chemical weapons discovered during the post-Saddam U.S. occupation of Iraq, according to what was revealed in this latest exposé, were basically surplus war materiel left over from Iraq's war with Iran. The Times report noted:

All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them.

Despite the fact there is no evidence that Saddam's government manufactured chemical weapons after 1991, President Bush, on September 12, 2002, while attempting to build a case for the 2003 Iraq invasion, said: "Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons." (Unlike the chemical weapons found by U.S. troops, no biological weapons at all were found.)

Bush continued, "The regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons."

Had the discovery of the chemical weapons been useful to the Bush administration when they were first uncovered, there is little doubt that their discovery would have been widely publicized by the White House to justify the 2003 invasion. Instead, their discovery was kept a secret, even when hiding their existence posed a serious threat to our troops in Iraq.  Far from justifying the invasion of Iraq, the age and obsolescence of the weapons only confirmed that the invasion had been launched under false pretenses.

In our July 6, 2008 article, "Did We Get Lied Into War?" we described the findings of a 170-page report compiled by the Senate Intelligence Committee, concluding five years of investigations. The committee focused especially on five key speeches made by administration officials concerning "the threats posed by Iraq, Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Iraqi ties to terrorist groups, and possible consequences of a US invasion of Iraq." It selected statements from those five speeches pertaining to eight categories: nuclear weapons, biological weapons, chemical weapons, weapons of mass destruction, methods of delivery, links to terrorism, regime intent, and assessments about the postwar situation in Iraq.

We will look at what the Senate report said about chemical weapons. It first cited an excerpt from a Bush speech delivered on September 12, 2002:

United Nations' inspections also revealed that Iraq likely maintains stockpiles of VX, mustard and other chemical agents, and that the regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons.

The Senate report offered this reaction to the Bush assertion:

The committee's conclusions initially related that statements by the administration "regarding Iraq's possession of chemical weapons were substantiated by intelligence information." But then it added: "Statements ... regarding Iraq's chemical weapons production capability and activities  did not reflect the intelligence community's uncertainties  as to whether such production was ongoing."[Italics in original.]

The committee's "postwar findings" once more contradict prewar administration allegations, finding: "The Iraq Survey Group conducted its review of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs and found that there 'were no caches of CW munitions.'"

But Saddam's antique store of chemical weapons, some of which were developed with the help of Western governments to use against Iran, have not outlived their usefulness. The Times report notes:

Many chemical weapons incidents clustered around the ruins of the Muthanna State Establishment, the center of Iraqi chemical agent production in the 1980s.

Since June, the compound has been held by the Islamic State [ISIS], the world's most radical and violent jihadist group.

It would not be surprising if our government soon announced that we must send troops to Iraq to prevent ISIS from accumulating some of those same second-hand chemical weapons that were used to justify the removal of Saddam Hussein.

Related article:

Did We Get Lied Into War?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carlucci; chemicalweapons; chivers; cjchivers; dnctalkingpoints; frankcarlucci; iraq; iraqiwmd; iraqwar; jarrodlampier; lampier; lang; muthanna; saddam; thenewamerican; walterlang; warrenmass; wmd
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

‘The following are confirmed quotes made prior to “Gulf War II”

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
President Clinton , Feb. 4, 1998.

“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
President Clinton , Feb. 17, 1998.

“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face .”
Madeline Albright , Feb 18, 1998.

” He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983 .”
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

“Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
Madeline Albright , Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

“There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
Al Gore , Sept. 23, 2002.

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
Al Gore , Sept. 23, 2002.

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeing and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons...”
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force “ if necessary “ to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have always s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do.”
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. “[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, M


21 posted on 02/15/2016 5:11:00 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: VitacoreVision

I’m used to liberals rehashing the Iraq war and Bush’s so called “lies”. It’s sad to see it on Free Republic. And all because of something Trump said in a debate?

No, I’m not a Jeb! fan. This is just sad.


22 posted on 02/15/2016 5:12:08 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: LS
Except for the 500 TONS of yellowcake.

Not true, Jack Wilson said so........

23 posted on 02/15/2016 5:17:42 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Rameumptom

Everyone had known Iraq had chemical weapons since the 1980s. There was nothing new about that. That the only evidence of any sort that can be pointed to involves chemical weapons just illustrates how weak the case concerning WMD was.

Where is the evidence that Iraq had a nuclear and/or biological weapons development program? And it’s been stated that the yellow cake was also leftover form the ‘80s, as all the discovered chemical weapons were.


24 posted on 02/15/2016 5:30:06 AM PST by Will88
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

how about we got there just in time to stop his production...

phew... we ended it just as he was about to start.

works for me.

leaving iraq is what turned it into the mess it is today, not taking out saddam.


25 posted on 02/15/2016 5:33:27 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Er, no. 550 tons were REMOVED from Iraq in 2007 or 2008. There were several (quiet) news stories. Nothing to see here. Move along.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/secret-us-mission-hauls-uranium-iraq/#.VsHVH-by1cw


26 posted on 02/15/2016 5:37:46 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Carl Vehse

Irrelevant, and you know it. It doesn’t matter how old your bullets are. This was WMD capable material that by treaty and UN resolution Saddam had an obligation to disclose and remove.

I think Trump’s general point is right, but you can’t just ignore uncomfortable facts.


27 posted on 02/15/2016 5:38:56 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: VitacoreVision
All the weapons found in Iraq were produced during a crash program started in the 1980s

So what?

28 posted on 02/15/2016 6:10:48 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: VitacoreVision

These bastards will never admit President Bush was correct. They undermined the US and will keep to their story no matter how much evidence to the contrary comes to light.


29 posted on 02/15/2016 6:11:38 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

So if they had developed nuclear weapons with that stuff prior to the invasion then that would not have counted either? Ahhhh, both Democrat and Trump logic.


30 posted on 02/15/2016 6:19:11 AM PST by biff
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To: VitacoreVision
To comment later.
31 posted on 02/15/2016 6:26:30 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: biff

In a speech before the World Affairs Council of Charlotte, NC, on April 7, 2006, President Bush stated that he fully understood that the intelligence was wrong, and [he was] just as disappointed as everybody else when U.S. troops failed to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.


32 posted on 02/15/2016 6:32:26 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

The only mistake Bush made was the night they caught Saddam in the hole in the ground, they should have put two bullets thru his head and covered him back up with that blanket. Then brought ALL the troops and their gear home, not staying to build a democratic nation for a people that do not understand the meaning of the word. Something that violated his own words during the 2000 campaign.

Saddam needed to die.


33 posted on 02/15/2016 6:38:52 AM PST by biff
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To: VitacoreVision

Based on the conflicting information, I believe there were some type of NBC programs going on. Before people forget, ask yourself this; Would you be willing to take a chance, any chance that any of those found warheads/shells wouldn’t work if deployed?

However, I think the NBC allegations as a justification for war were a cover for another, probably more important reason to stop the insanity...the oil for food scandal that the UN was up to its neck in.

Kinda hard to coalesce any coalition against the UN, a lot easier to do so against chemical weapons.

JMHO...


34 posted on 02/15/2016 6:42:27 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: VitacoreVision
Enough of this DNC BS already! READ THE DAMN AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ!

This was passed by a Democrat Senate. It says over and over that Iraq was in violation of the 1991 cease fire agreement. If you want to question a President's actions, then look no further than President Clinton who did nothing while Iraq skirted the cease fire agreement. If Clinton had been more vigilant, then we wouldn't have had to invade.

35 posted on 02/15/2016 6:44:51 AM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: biff

now that was what I’m talking about.. I’d agree with you there.. and tell the second in charge you better not piss us off either LOL


36 posted on 02/15/2016 6:47:54 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: VitacoreVision
The cake is a lie.

Really? Then explain this:

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program - a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium - reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment - was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

37 posted on 02/15/2016 6:51:02 AM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: PIF

Why do you think the administration didn’t make a big deal about the convoys going into Syria?

Frregards


38 posted on 02/15/2016 6:54:05 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

I have no idea why. But attacking those convoys would have meant killing the Russians escorting them ... and everything that would have led to ...


39 posted on 02/15/2016 6:56:06 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: VitacoreVision

They were the other kind of chemical weapons.... not the ones we went after... the other kind... okay...


40 posted on 02/15/2016 6:57:20 AM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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