I’m used to liberals rehashing the Iraq war and Bush’s so called “lies”. It’s sad to see it on Free Republic. And all because of something Trump said in a debate?
No, I’m not a Jeb! fan. This is just sad.
We are watching a civilization die. Part of it is an ignorance of history. The populist candidate, who proves his prowess outside of government, then returns to the adulation of the common man, while threatening those that run the established power structure. Julius Caesar or Donald Trump?
The fact is that our Founding Fathers trusted laws, not men. They would have been aghast at otherwise intelligent people spouting off messianic rhetoric about a political candidate. Individual people don't save the government (that's an old-world idea... the kind they fought against); the system of government protects the people. But we can't change the system overnight, and doing so will mean pain for everyone. So instead, we'll just elect a savior!
I'm recording names and statements here, because, after Trump wins (and, if it's between him and Hillary, I'll vote for Trump myself), I'm going to show up on every thread where some of the (presently) most obnoxious sycophants post and quote back to them everything they are saying now. Fools deserve to be humiliated by their own words...
In my opinion, the topic IS relevant for more than one reason. First, there’s another Bush running for office. The unspoken question is...how many of his brother’s and father’s policies will he support and carry out? Or will he distance himself from their failed policies? Both of the Bush’s were involved in middle east wars.
What’s Jebs! outlook on war in the middle east? Does he see the mistakes that were made and how will his policies impact the middle east? If he can’t or won’t admit to their mistakes, how can we believe him? How can we trust him if he can’t see their mistakes?
Politics is the art of persuasion. People get their minds working when ‘suggestions’ are made. Trump is ‘suggesting’ that there may be issues with Jeb! in light of the prior presidencies of family members.
Can Jeb! handle that? Obviously not. He doesn’t have emotional maturity. He’s a dreamer, like the democrats.
He should be able to look Donald Trump in the eye, man to man, and tell Trump something like this..”We aren’t here to vet my father’s past successes or failures, and we aren’t here to rehash my brother’s successes or failures. We are here to look at what “I” have to offer since I’m not my father or my brother. “I” am running for president here, not them. I have the advantage of the success and errors of family member presidents because they allowed me to learn about what “I” need to do as president.”
Something along those lines, or even different ones..I’m just suggesting one possibility that could open that door to discussion about what makes a Jeb! presidency different from that of his father and his brother.
But what does Jeb! do? He looks helplessly at the audience and the moderators at a Presidential Debate and pleads with them to stop the bully from picking on his family.
REALLY?????
So, when Donald Trump challenges him, it actually puts Jeb in a position to strengthen his candidacy and in the process make the Donald look like a duck.
The Donald is actually doing him a favor and the pathetic whimp is incapable of seeing it!
So yes, the question is relevant. What WILL Jeb! do about the clay feet of the middle east where there is no cohesion, where every man there is a bully, attempting to bully his way through the world in an effort to conquer it for Islam? Jeb! becomes Jello in the face of a bully.
Trump puts question marks in our minds..do we want more failed Bush policies? Do we want more lies about no new taxes, or absent WMD’s in Iraq? Do we want to listen to Jeb’s own lies? He can’t even admit that his dad or brother had both strength’s and weaknesses, nor can he admit his own.
All he can do is stand there and cry helplessly about the bully picking on his family. He can’t even come up with a reasonable challenge to Trump to put Trump on the defensive.
All he can do is cry about eminent domain? Eminent Domain was written into the constitution In 1791. It’s NOT new! Not even a reasonable challenge because he doesn’t tell the whole story. He tries to appeal not to intelligent informed people, but stupid, ignorant ones who are too lazy to do any homework. And in so doing, he makes himself look stupid and inept.
That’s the kind of man who slips and slides sleazy policies in because he can’t deal with honesty and reality face to face. Passive-Aggressive, emotionally immature. He might look ok standing by himself, but put him next to the real thing and he looks like a cheap imitation. He’s guilded brass, not solid gold.
So, we are faced with assessing Trump’s charges. Are they valid, or not? If so, it puts Trump in good standing as someone who speaks truthfully. If not, then it becomes the act of a lying bully.
So we the Jury, the PEOPLE must look at the evidence presented so that we can make an educated decision, a judgement if you will as to the character and abilities of the men who seek to hold office. So yes, we must look over the ‘evidence’ that’s available in the light of time, history, and the presentation of new facts/evidence. That’s our job as voters. WE vet those candidates.
So yes, it’s very relevant for Freepers to rehash the information.