Bush Lied About WMDs? Trump's Outrageous Accusation - ludicrous left-wing canard.

The American Spectator ^ | February 15, 2016 | Paul Kengor

[Cincinatus' Wife]

[Huge SNIP]

Thus, by 2003, President George W. Bush had correctly calculated that Saddam's WMD arsenal, after at least five years of no inspections, was an intolerable, unacceptable risk in the wake of 9/11.

This was a fully legitimate fear, with Bush's suspicion of Saddam's stockpiles first informed not by his advisers but, instead, by the media that informed all of us in the 1990s, years before Bush became president.

In short, all of that very recent history was forgotten by an emotional, angry, childish political left after our troops didn't find the WMD stockpiles we all expected.

Of course, we did discover some WMDs in Iraq after 2003 (everyone forgets this), and chief inspector David Kay found both Iraqi infrastructure and intent to ramp up WMD production once Saddam later figured he was in the clear. We did not, however, find the WMD stockpiles we expected.

That said, the argument that George W. Bush deliberately lied about WMDs is not only extraordinarily unfair but stunningly misinformed and nonsensical.

Sure, Donald Trump can generally argue that going into Iraq was ill-advised, and that "we destabilized" the larger Middle East region. "George Bush made a mistake," said Trump in the South Carolina debate. "We should have never been in Iraq."

That's a legitimate point of contention. Fair enough - though Trump better not exclude Obama's prematurely pulling troops from Iraq from that equation. That, more than anything else, enabled the rise of ISIS.

But Trump charging that Bush lied on WMDs is outrageous. He should clarify it, apologize for it, or admit that he did not speak as precisely as he should have.

[xzins]

We’re not talking about disclosure of anything. We’re talking about simple defense of his claims. He wouldn’t even say “did to.” to those who said saddam didn’t have them. He wouldn’t help with anything.

[Obadiah]

Amazing isn’t it. It’s looking more likely we are going to get stuck with Trump. There are none so blind as those who are determined not to see.

[Yosemitest]

I wonder how many of those weapons were on that Ship that Hauled weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood in Benghazi ?

Hillary claimed “No Knowledge” of gun running
and told Rand Paul he needed to ask the CIA.


Let's look at some of the facts.
Obama Arranged Benghazi Trip That Resulted In Murder Of US AMB Chris Stevens

Arms Flow to Syria May Be Behind Benghazi Cover-Up states:
" During the 2011 Libyan revolt against Muammar Qaddafi, reckless U.S. policy flung American forces and money into the conflict on the side of the rebels, who were known at the time to include Al Qaeda elements. Previously the number two official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, Christopher Stevens was named as the official U.S. liaison to the Libyan opposition in March, 2011.

Stevens was tasked with helping to coordinate U.S. assistance to the rebels, whose top military commander, Abdelhakim Belhadj, was the leader of the Al Qaeda affiliate, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). That means that Stevens was authorized by the U.S. Department of State and the Obama administration to aid and abet individuals and groups that were, at a minimum, allied ideologically with Al Qaeda, the jihadist terrorist organization that attacked the homeland on the first 9/11, the one that’s not supposed to exist anymore after the killing of its leader, Osama bin Laden, on May 2, 2011. "
[This article is well worth your time.]

Obama the arms broker to al-Qaeda states [this article is also well worth your time] :
" Now we learn that Ambassador Chris Stevens’s mission in Benghazi on that fatal day was to organize the shipment of arms to the rebel militias in Syria.

And that means: the shipment of arms, by order of the President of the United States, to al-Qaeda,
the terrorist organization which the President himself constantly declares to be the enemy of his country. 


No wonder President Obama, Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the rest of the stoats and weasels have been lying their heads off and trying to put the blame for the whole hideous and tragic episode – for what amounts to an act of war – on somebody’s little video. Scraping the bottom of the excuses-barrel.



The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have now taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East.

Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, the leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. "

SOURCES: SLAIN U.S. AMBASSADOR RECRUITED JIHADISTS
Egyptian officials say Stevens worked with Saudis against Assad

Was Syrian weapons shipment factor in ambassador’s Benghazi visit? states:
" Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, which means "The Victory," was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun -- 35 miles from the Syrian border -- on Sept. 6, just five days before Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed …

… On the night of Sept. 11, in what would become his last known public meeting, Stevens met with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and escorted him out of the consulate front gate one hour before the assault began at approximately 9:35 p.m. local time.

… the timing and the meeting between the Turkish diplomat and Stevens was "unusual."

According to an initial Sept. 14 report by the Times of London, Al Entisar was carrying 400 tons of cargo. …

The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, RPG's and Russian-designed shoulder-launched missiles known as MANPADS. …

… It was reported there was a fight about the weapons and who got what "between the free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood."

' The point is that both of these weapons systems are extremely accurate and very simple to use,' Fox News military analyst Col. David Hunt explained. He said the passage of weapons from Libya to Syria would escalate the conflict. ' With a short amount of instruction, you've got somebody capable of taking down any, any aircraft. Anywhere in the world. ' … "


Renamed "ALNGOOM ALMODIAA 1"


Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria by New York Times

Why Libya Cover-Up: Obama Was Arming Al Qaeda & Islamists

Libya's missing weapons being smuggled into Gaza
Israeli intelligence is increasingly concerned about the quantity of Libyan arms flowing into Gaza.

Clinton asked for more security in Benghazi, Obama said no

How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria (And It Involves Weapons) [Article has many links.]

Ed Klein: Bill Clinton encouraged Hillary to resign in the wake of the Benghazi scandal

Explain this: Ambassador Chris Stevens killed due to lack of security – Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett gets Secret Service

Libyan Officials Claim US Was Warned 3 DAYS BEFORE Deadly Benghazi Consulate Attack

More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments from CNN states:
" Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.

Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security.

He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn't good for international business.

'The situation is frightening, it scares us,' Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.

Mabrouk said it was not the first time he has warned foreigners about the worsening security situation in the face of the growing presence of armed jihadist groups in the Benghazi area. "


Guard at consulate in Libya says attack was coordinated

Egypt intelligence warns of attacks on Israel, US embassies

Blame Obama for Chris Stevens' murder

Backed by Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim Brotherhood gets ready to overthrow U.S.-ally King of Jordan

Obama Bypasses Congress, Gives $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood

ALDRICH: Hillary Clinton’s abominable national security record
History of incompetence and dangerous decisions

Obama not subject to charges of treason?

Benghazi: Symbol of Obama's Leadership

Obama Admits He Is A Muslim

So, let us remember.
Muslims are well know for lying about their faith.
MUSLIMS are allowed to LIE and deceive NON MUSLIMS, if it benefits or protects ISLAM.
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"

Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Posted by Atheist


For a better understanding of the issue, read HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ). then watch William Federer explain it, from Jan. 25, 2012 at CC Chino Hills, CA. It's a MUST WATCH for everyone,Christians, Athiests and even Muslims!

As retired military myself, I've seen the damage of "keeping secrets" about bad leaders.
Obama is EVIL, pure and simple.
Please watch Glenn Beck with Trevor Loudon & his book "Barack Obama and the Enemies Within".

Then watch the 29 minute 13 seconds video Trevor Loudon- An Urgent (and chilling) Message for America.



Barack Obama and the Enemies Within

Obama may be feigning "incompetence," thinking he's too sly, being a "wolf in sheep's clothing" since his mentoring was from Fabian Fascism..


Remember:" The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked : who can know it? "

The "Establishment Republicans" will probably NOT want to IMPEACH the TREASONIST Barack Hussein Obama II.
But it's better for the country that Obama suffer the penalty, the strongest penalty for his actions, and his inactions.
Let's look at the Presidential Oaths of Office.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States,
and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Now who among us really believes Obama did any of that ?
To Obama, that was "Just words. Just speeches! "
Damn him ! Damn him to hell !

I'll finish this with asking you to read
‘Obama and the Threat to Israel’: See the ‘Absolutely Uncertain’ Video That’s Gotten 650K Hits in Three Days .
Watch the 18 minute 56 second documentary video "Absolutely Uncertain" at "theBLAZE.com" or on YouTube.com, narrated by Irina, the 23-year-old “Jewish New Yorker” and a former Obama supporter .





One other suggestion, read DID OBAMA WANT STEVENS DEAD?
The language is a little abrasive, but spot on. Also read:
How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria
(And It Involves Weapons)
October 19, 2012
WASHINGTON, DC – SEPTEMBER 14: Intern Chris Jobson (R) and press assistant Isaiah Calvin (L) of Senate Democratic Media Center sign condolence book for Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens at the U.S. Capitol September 14, 2012 in Washington, DC.
This article by Michael Kelley originally appeared on Business Insider.

[dasboot]

I think G.W. thought best to conceal the location of WMD’s, and disavow their existence by means of mild references to being mistaken about them. It had been estimated that cleanup, deactivation and destruction of the amount of material transported to the valley would exceed 10 billion?? 100 billion?? More?? And take years and years...of very dangerous work. Better for the world to leave them under the dirt in Lebanon..

[Yosemitest]

Thanks for the link.

[dp0622]

Bush was going in no matter what was found out and no matter what saddam decided. I dont know why.

The 10s of billions the Saudis supply to terrorists was much more dangerous than this 2 cent dictator yet they paid no price.

no one can seriously believe that the sauds ha NO knowledge of planned terror attacks against America.

perhaps not 9/11, but the knew where their money was going.

bush was so in bed with the sauds i’m surprised he didn’t have one of their children.

would be a shame if russia kicked their ####es off this planet.

yeah, i know Russia is a Big threat to us, but for now, let them kill ISIS members an the “moderates” and shoot down any saudi planes for good measure.

[SmokingJoe]

Donald Trump is a 9/11 Truther. He is not fit to be elected dog catcher, let alone president of anywhere. He belongs to the nut house.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

........”Even before Saturday’s debate, [Trump had] already lost any pretense of being a revolutionary. Aside from his border fence and his temporary ban on Muslim immigration, his primary policy prescription consisted of little more than “Put me in charge, and I’ll make things right.” That’s the oldest piece of political pie-in-the-sky there is, and it doesn’t become revolutionary simply because it’s accompanied by a barrage of personal insults and a shock-and-awe media presence.

But after Saturday’s debate, it’s clear there’s a Democrat in the GOP field. Trump doesn’t threaten the Republican establishment because he’s too conservative or too populist. He threatens the Republican establishment because he belongs in the other party. He’s hid it well until now. But as his family Bible says - in the same Testament as Two Corinthians - “There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed.”

Donald Trump has been revealed. The ball is in your court, South Carolina. Will the state that prides itself on picking the Republican nominee select the GOP’s first Democrat?”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431320/donald-trump-conventional-democrat

[Lib-Lickers 2]

I’m sorry but THOSE chems were NOT the reason Bush gave for the invasion where the cost was 4000 dead, tens of thousands maimed and wounded and over 2 trillion dollars no matter how bad you want it to be so.. for a few old chem shells.. really? that’s silly talk.. how don’t you get it?

[SaraJohnson]

It’s too bad Bush claimed there were no WMD if there really were. But he said it and even made a high profile joke about it at a media roast event. At the same time, Cheney was saying there were WMD. I was shocked that Bush said it. I felt scandalized.

[dasboot]

“Bush was going in no matter what was found out and no matter what saddam decided. I dont know why.”

Look at a map. Sadam was vulnerable, and occupied the strategic location we needed.

It was brilliant, bold, and absolutely necessary deployment. I think the world would never have heard of ISIS if Obama hadn’t ceded our advantage. None of this late misery and death would have been possible.

[Yosemitest]

"Coming soon to the Lying Teddy Bare cult!
"

WRONG NAME !
That should be TRUMP'S POLITICAL SUICIDE !

Trump: "I want to tell you, they lied.
They said there were weapons of mass destruction.
There were none.
And they knew there were none."

[toddausauras]

Terrible war. Total disaster. Truth from Trump. It was a Bush family vendetta and we all know it.

[Yosemitest]

And the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF has lost ho9w many American Military NOW to an enemy he REFUSES to name ?

[dasboot]

Trump is telling the truth....the WMD’S were, in the main, NOT in Iraq AT THE TIME WE TOOK CONTROL OF THE PLACE.

But it’s an uncomfortable for me to hear.

[dasboot]

Terrible war?

Our ARMY kicked butt. I know many who were there.

It was a huge success!!! And for great reasons!!

[Yosemitest]

But W.M.D. WERE in Iraq BEFORE "WE TOOK CONTROL OF THE PLACE !"

[WVKayaker]

Poor Teddy Bare... lies and damnable lies! That’s the SOP} for Teddy Bares!

Powell Blames Himself, Others For Specious Iraq WMD Claims to U.N.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3397195/posts

...Powell’s high-profile February 2003 prewar presentation to the U.N. Security Council included now-discredited claims that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein had movable biological weapons facilities and was involved in a “sinister nexus” with al-Qaeda.

No evidence of active WMD production facilities or usable stockpiles have been found in Iraq following the U.S.-led March 2003 invasion.

...

[dasboot]

“But W.M.D. WERE in Iraq BEFORE ”WE TOOK CONTROL OF THE PLACE !”

HELL YEAH!!!!!!

[LurkLongley]

He made a conscious choice on that, I don’t pretend to understand why.