It means that Trump supporters have come up with new lies to beat the same dead horse with.
This “illegal immigrant” crap is ridiculous, but it reveals another layer of the Ted Cruz - NBC onion which should concern his supporters.
The CRBA is not a citizenship document. You can be a US citizen at birth and NEVER have a CRBA. Without it, it is more difficult to PROVE your citizenship, true, but it would not have been illegal for little Ted to enter the US in 1974 without one.
HOWEVER.
In addition to aggregating other sources of evidence to prove citizenship, a timely application at or shortly after birth proves INTENT on the part of parents for you to live your life as a US citizen. If I were a judge and I had to rule on a complicated NBC case (and this case IS complicated), one of the factors IN FAVOR OF NBC status would be the absence of confusion about what your parents intended for you at the time of your birth.
If it’s true that not-so-young Ted didn’t apply for a CRBA until 1986, it suggests that his parents were uncertain about which citizenship status they desired for him at birth, or even which status would confer the most advantages (remember, Uncle Sam was still giving out scholarships to Danang University in 1970, as any Americans living in Canada then were well aware).
If the parents of a child born abroad showed up at the consulate the next day, saying, “here’s the newest American citizen, we are so proud to get that CRBA”, that’s evidence of INTENT. If they don’t, and in fact wait 16 years, it’s also evidence of INTENT.
Ted Cruz will be out of the race in three weeks, but this new wrinkle does make establishing his NBC status harder, IMO.
It means that Trump supporters have come up with new lies to beat the same dead horse with.
A CRBA may not absolutely have been required. Presumably, a claim to US citizenship could have been made later based on other documentation (passports, birth certificates). Whether that would mean that one wasn't a citizen from birth or not, I can't say.
It does seem like there's a slippery slope, here: is citizenship established weeks or months after through a CRBA the same or different from citizenship uncontested at birth or from citizenship established years later through other documentation? Are you a citizen from birth in all three cases? If a CRBA makes you retroactively a citizen from birth would a later process result in a different status?
Now what does THIS mean?
It means that we’re so pathetic that we have three top candidates for President of the United States, two of which may or may not be eligible to hold the office. Seriously? Out of millions of people in America, this is the best we can do? And the fourth guy on the list is a Mexican at heart. More pathetic.
The Cruz thing, at least, has been floating around for years and he knew it.
If I were a Cruz or Rubio donor or financial supporter, I’d be pissed off to have been bamboozled. They never should’ve announced until holding in their hands paperwork absolutely declaring them as “eligible”.
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If Cruz's parents got him into the US without a baby passport or birth certificate proving him a US citizen they must of carried him in the spare tire well. Note also that even so, it's not proof of non-citizenship and they could obtain a CRBA anytime up until 1988.
About "natural born citizenship"; according to the both parents citizen theory neither Adams nor Jefferson qualified because their fathers died well before citizenship could have been assumed or conferred.
Back to Rubio, my real concern in this discussion is that Magic Marco would lend legitimacy to anchor babies' right to sit as president (which I note is already being claimed on some internet sites).
It means not only is he NOT a natural born citizen, he might not even be American!
Look. He was born in 1970.
He voluntarily relinquished his Canadian citizenship in what, 2012?
These two facts alone show he IS NOT an American. Canada DID NOT recognize dual citizenship until 1977. Had he EVER been an American, well what do you know, he wouldn’t have had to cancel his Canadian citizenship, as it didn’t even exist!
That's a long time.
What it means is that Ducking Donald can't run an honest campaign on the issues and must rely on distraction for enough gullible sheep to clinch the nomination sobhe can hand the election to "his good friend" Hillary. “I’m not bringing a suit. I promise. But the Democrats are going to bring a lawsuit.†He doesn't have the balls to do it so he's got his surrogates keeping the issue alive for him.
When did Ted Cruz become a US citizen?
When the CRBA was applied for and when it was issued is not the issue here. What matters are the who, what, when, and where at the time of birth, not when documents were created.
State Department puts this a little differently,
I think its the “May acquire” U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met...
It is not automatic...it just isn’t..
A child born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met. The child’s parents should contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to apply for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA) to document that the child is a U.S. citizen. If the U.S. embassy or consulate determines that the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a consular officer will approve the CRBA application and the Department of State will issue a CRBA, also called a Form FS-240, in the child’s name.
According to U.S. law, a CRBA is proof of U.S. citizenship and may be used to obtain a U.S. passport and register for school, among other purposes.
The child’s parents may choose to apply for a U.S. passport for the child at the same time that they apply for a CRBA. Parents may also choose to apply only for a U.S. passport for the child. Like a CRBA, a full validity, unexpired U.S. passport is proof of U.S. citizenship.
Parents of a child born abroad to a U.S. citizen or citizens should apply for a CRBA and/or a U.S. passport for the child as soon as possible. Failure to promptly document a child who meets the statutory requirements for acquiring U.S. citizenship at birth may cause problems for the parents and the child when attempting to establish the child’s U.S. citizenship and eligibility for the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship, including entry into the United States. By law, U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States.
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html
The Penguin, The Riddler, Catwoman, The Joker, Ted Cruz.
What looks like a duck, quacks like a duck.
It means the reservist Col jas no knowledge of the law.
Dana, thanks for the post!
Lucyt, note this point:
“...Ted’s parents did not fill out the required form until 1986....”
That would have been when he was 16.
Dovetails with him being in high school and his folks doing the paperwork so he could get a passport to go to England for a competition.
Ummm. Cruz was a US Citizen by virtue of his mother’s citizenship upon his birth.
The Canuckgate episodes just keep on coming.
It means he was and is now an illegal alien.
I would thought old man Rafael would want to go back to Cuba to pal around with his old friend Fidel, who he fought with in the jungles against the US backed Batista. Strange how no one brings up Teddy’s communist father.
Given AMNESTY in 1986 by President Reagan? His parents failed to file a CRBA form which is required by US law.
Ted’s parents did not fill out the required form until 1986.Did Cruz’s parents ever file a CRBAform. or apply for amnesty per President Reagans Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986?
http://ppsimmons.blogspot.ca/2016/02/smoking-gun-ted-cruz-was-not-american.html