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Donald Trump Attends ‘Gay-Affirming’ Presbyterian ‘Church’ in Iowa Days Before Caucus
Christian News ^ | 02/05/2016 | By Heather Clark

Posted on 02/05/2016 12:27:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind

MUSCATINE, Iowa -- Whether or not he was aware that it was not the same branch of Presbyterianism he claims to follow, Donald Trump obtained a lesson in "humility" during a reading at a "gay-affirming" Presbyterian USA congregation on Sunday, followed by a sermon from a woman pastor that included talk on welcoming refugees.

"We talked about humility in church today," Trump told reporters following the service at First Presbyterian Church of Muscatine (PCUSA), which he visited prior to a campaign rally in the city, just days before the Iowa Caucus. "I don't know if that was aimed at me. Perhaps." The reading was from 1 Corinthians 12, and was delivered by a female member of the congregation.

"I also want you to think about how this keeps your significance from getting blow up into self-importance. For no matter how significant you are, it is only because of what you are part of," she stated in speaking on the passage.

"Can you imagine eye telling hand, 'Get lost; I don't need you?' Or, head telling foot, 'You're fired; your job has been phased out?'" the woman said. Trump is known for his "You're fired" line on "The Apprentice."

''I heard that,'' Trump told reporters. ''I wondered if that was for me. They didn't even know I was coming, so I doubt it. But it's an appropriate phrase. … Perhaps she had something in mind."

"I have more humility than people think," he asserted.

Saturnia, also delivered a message during the service, during which she contended that "Syrian refugees and Mexican migrants" should be welcomed by the nation and not shut out.

''Jesus is teaching us today that he has come for those who are outside of the church,'' she said. "[T]hose who are the most unloved, the most discriminated against, the most forgotten in our community and in our world.''

Trump said that he heard Saturnia's words, but still believes that Syrians should be cared for in their own country.

"I can only tell you that I want to take care of all people but with Syrians, we just can't do it here. But I do want to build a safe zone [in Syria]," he stated. "We should have done that a long time ago."

In addition to listening to the messages, Trump joined in the singing of hymns as the woman next to him put her arm around him.

As previously reported, Trump has stated numerous times over the past year that he identifies as Presbyterian.

"I am a religious person. People are so shocked when they find this out--I'm Protestant. I'm Presbyterian," he said during the Iowa Family Leadership Summit last July, stating that his pastor was the late Norman Vincent Peale, who became known for his books and speeches on "the power of positive thinking."

Peale led Marble Collegiate Church in New York City, which is actually not Presbyterian, but according to its website is affiliated with the Reformed Church in America (RCA).

There are two groups of Presbyterians: the Presbyterian Church of America (PCA) and the Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA). The PCA separated from PCUSA in the 1970's due to "opposition to the long-developing theological liberalism which denied the deity of Jesus Christ and the inerrancy and authority of Scripture."

As previously reported, last year, the leadership of PCUSA voted to redefine marriage and allow ministers to officiate same-sex ceremonies. PCUSA congregations are also generally pro-abortion.

PCA as a denomination affirms the biblical definition of marriage and the sanctity of human life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: braindeadforcruz; churchhomosexuality; cruzwhorship; gayaffirming; goinghomesoonted; homosexualagenda; moronsforted; seekandfind4tds; sttedclowns; tds; trump
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1 posted on 02/05/2016 12:27:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I heard he was sitting between a couple of Corinthians, too.


2 posted on 02/05/2016 12:29:33 PM PST by dem bums
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To: SeekAndFind
"I have more humility than people think," he asserted.

He's very humble about his humility.

3 posted on 02/05/2016 12:31:26 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: SeekAndFind

Did he solicit money from the gay billionaire pastor?


4 posted on 02/05/2016 12:31:28 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: dem bums

“I heard he was sitting between a couple of Corinthians, too.”

Ha. You beat me to it.


5 posted on 02/05/2016 12:33:26 PM PST by Durbin
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To: SeekAndFind

How could any Presbyterian not know that the PC(USA) is pro-homosexual. So much for Trump’s “faith”.


6 posted on 02/05/2016 12:33:47 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: MUDDOG
"I have more humility than people think," he asserted.

He's very humble about his humility.

His humility is very classy humility, if he may say so himself.

7 posted on 02/05/2016 12:33:57 PM PST by dem bums
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To: dem bums

YUGE amount of humility.


8 posted on 02/05/2016 12:34:43 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: SeekAndFind

My cousin is a Episcopalian. He despises their stance on homosexuality. His pastor is a homosexual who “married” his boyfriend. He’s still attends this church. His wife won’t let him leave or he would. Telling him to leave just starts an argument, so I we don’t talk about religion anymore.


9 posted on 02/05/2016 12:37:24 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind
The reading was from 1 Corinthians 12, and was delivered by a female member of the congregation.

Not much of a church, they only have ONE Corinthian.
10 posted on 02/05/2016 12:39:00 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: SeekAndFind
And I had homo shipmates in the Navy.

And I now have two butt-buddy neighbors that I wave to and have small-talk with.

My niece is married to a woman, and I'm nice to both of them at family gatherings.

Associations with homos is not something to hold against a candidate whether Cruz or Trump.

11 posted on 02/05/2016 12:39:07 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: SeekAndFind

This isn’t news.


12 posted on 02/05/2016 12:40:16 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well yeah, because selling America out to the globalists just isn’t important at all.


13 posted on 02/05/2016 12:42:30 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: Georgia Girl 2

CRuz News ;-)


14 posted on 02/05/2016 12:46:22 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: KGeorge

Nope. The big issues for 2016 are:

1) How many Bible verses you can recite
2) Have you ever been divorced
3) Did you ever been anywhere near a gay person
(Cruz is exempt)
4) Did you go to church the most


15 posted on 02/05/2016 12:46:58 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

“Oh NO!!!!! He sat next a a gay person!!! GHAAAA!!!!! I can’t vote for him now!” (douses self with holy water)

~ every Cruz supporter


16 posted on 02/05/2016 12:50:16 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: SeekAndFind

NY values for sure!


17 posted on 02/05/2016 12:50:56 PM PST by sickoflibs (Trump : 'WAAH, There is no way I could have lost Iowa, Look at the polls. Obviously fraud')
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To: SeekAndFind

My golly! I thought Iowa was as pure as the driven snow! As is Cruz, who picked up a hefty donation from two gay guys.


18 posted on 02/05/2016 12:52:37 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

LOL! What promises did Greasy Teddy make to the two gay guys from whom he picked up some ready cash? His first born son, lol?


19 posted on 02/05/2016 12:53:57 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: miss marmelstein

Judging from some scandalous news story Breitbart is about to break, I wonder if Cruz picked up “anything else” from them.... *wink*

[As is Cruz, who picked up a hefty donation from two gay guys.]


20 posted on 02/05/2016 12:54:43 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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