Skip to comments.Donald Trump Attends â€˜Gay-Affirmingâ€™ Presbyterian â€˜Churchâ€™ in Iowa Days Before Caucus
Posted on 02/05/2016 12:27:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind
MUSCATINE, Iowa -- Whether or not he was aware that it was not the same branch of Presbyterianism he claims to follow, Donald Trump obtained a lesson in "humility" during a reading at a "gay-affirming" Presbyterian USA congregation on Sunday, followed by a sermon from a woman pastor that included talk on welcoming refugees.
"We talked about humility in church today," Trump told reporters following the service at First Presbyterian Church of Muscatine (PCUSA), which he visited prior to a campaign rally in the city, just days before the Iowa Caucus. "I don't know if that was aimed at me. Perhaps." The reading was from 1 Corinthians 12, and was delivered by a female member of the congregation.
"I also want you to think about how this keeps your significance from getting blow up into self-importance. For no matter how significant you are, it is only because of what you are part of," she stated in speaking on the passage.
"Can you imagine eye telling hand, 'Get lost; I don't need you?' Or, head telling foot, 'You're fired; your job has been phased out?'" the woman said. Trump is known for his "You're fired" line on "The Apprentice."
''I heard that,'' Trump told reporters. ''I wondered if that was for me. They didn't even know I was coming, so I doubt it. But it's an appropriate phrase. â¦ Perhaps she had something in mind."
"I have more humility than people think," he asserted.
Saturnia, also delivered a message during the service, during which she contended that "Syrian refugees and Mexican migrants" should be welcomed by the nation and not shut out.
''Jesus is teaching us today that he has come for those who are outside of the church,'' she said. "[T]hose who are the most unloved, the most discriminated against, the most forgotten in our community and in our world.''
Trump said that he heard Saturnia's words, but still believes that Syrians should be cared for in their own country.
"I can only tell you that I want to take care of all people but with Syrians, we just can't do it here. But I do want to build a safe zone [in Syria]," he stated. "We should have done that a long time ago."
In addition to listening to the messages, Trump joined in the singing of hymns as the woman next to him put her arm around him.
As previously reported, Trump has stated numerous times over the past year that he identifies as Presbyterian.
"I am a religious person. People are so shocked when they find this out--I'm Protestant. I'm Presbyterian," he said during the Iowa Family Leadership Summit last July, stating that his pastor was the late Norman Vincent Peale, who became known for his books and speeches on "the power of positive thinking."
Peale led Marble Collegiate Church in New York City, which is actually not Presbyterian, but according to its website is affiliated with the Reformed Church in America (RCA).
There are two groups of Presbyterians: the Presbyterian Church of America (PCA) and the Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA). The PCA separated from PCUSA in the 1970's due to "opposition to the long-developing theological liberalism which denied the deity of Jesus Christ and the inerrancy and authority of Scripture."
As previously reported, last year, the leadership of PCUSA voted to redefine marriage and allow ministers to officiate same-sex ceremonies. PCUSA congregations are also generally pro-abortion.
PCA as a denomination affirms the biblical definition of marriage and the sanctity of human life.
I heard he was sitting between a couple of Corinthians, too.
He's very humble about his humility.
Did he solicit money from the gay billionaire pastor?
“I heard he was sitting between a couple of Corinthians, too.”
Ha. You beat me to it.
How could any Presbyterian not know that the PC(USA) is pro-homosexual. So much for Trump’s “faith”.
His humility is very classy humility, if he may say so himself.
YUGE amount of humility.
My cousin is a Episcopalian. He despises their stance on homosexuality. His pastor is a homosexual who “married” his boyfriend. He’s still attends this church. His wife won’t let him leave or he would. Telling him to leave just starts an argument, so I we don’t talk about religion anymore.
And I now have two butt-buddy neighbors that I wave to and have small-talk with.
My niece is married to a woman, and I'm nice to both of them at family gatherings.
Associations with homos is not something to hold against a candidate whether Cruz or Trump.
This isn’t news.
Well yeah, because selling America out to the globalists just isn’t important at all.
CRuz News ;-)
Nope. The big issues for 2016 are:
1) How many Bible verses you can recite
2) Have you ever been divorced
3) Did you ever been anywhere near a gay person
(Cruz is exempt)
4) Did you go to church the most
“Oh NO!!!!! He sat next a a gay person!!! GHAAAA!!!!! I can’t vote for him now!” (douses self with holy water)
~ every Cruz supporter
NY values for sure!
My golly! I thought Iowa was as pure as the driven snow! As is Cruz, who picked up a hefty donation from two gay guys.
LOL! What promises did Greasy Teddy make to the two gay guys from whom he picked up some ready cash? His first born son, lol?
Judging from some scandalous news story Breitbart is about to break, I wonder if Cruz picked up “anything else” from them.... *wink*
[As is Cruz, who picked up a hefty donation from two gay guys.]
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