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NJ Man who Shoots 3 Problem Bears gets $4,000+ Fines and Fees
Ammoland ^ | 4 February, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/05/2016 5:48:26 AM PST by marktwain

Bears NJ Bob Ehlling


In October, 2014, a 76-year-old New Jersey resident shot three problem bears on his property.  One was an adult sow that was on his deck and looking in through his sliding glass door.  The location of the two juvenile bears when they were shot, is disputed, but was either on the deck or close to it.  Bears are more dangerous as they are larding up for the winter hibernation.

Bears that display this level of familiarity with humans, who associate humans with food, are a severe problems waiting to happen.  It is why the conservation community has come up with a well used phrase: A fed bear is a dead bear.

Judge James G. Devine handed down the fines against Robert Ehling on the 28th of January, 2016.  I found the judges attitude a bit disturbing in one particular sense.  He thought that Robert C. Ehling acted as a "vigilante".  From njherald.com:

ANDOVER TOWNSHIP - A Sparta man was found guilty of illegally killing three bears and possession of a loaded firearm within 450 feet of an occupied dwelling on Thursday and ordered to pay a total of $4,332 in civil penalties and restitution.

The verdict and fines were levied against Robert C. Ehling by Municipal Court Judge James Devine, who called the 76-year-old man's actions on Oct. 10, 2014, the acts of "a vigilante, usurping the right of the state."

Wow.  New Jersey is one of the most anti-Second Amendment states in the Union.  They have effectively nullified the Second Amendment if you can be fined for mere possession of a loaded firearm, on your own property, while you are defending your property from bears.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; bears; nj; secondamendment
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1 posted on 02/05/2016 5:48:26 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Bears that become comfortable around humans, and associate them with food, are dangerous, and should be put down.

A fed Bear is a dead bear.


2 posted on 02/05/2016 5:49:56 AM PST by marktwain
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I want the judge fed to the bears.

Let’s see if he thinks defending one’s life from them was still excessive.

The old man should tear up his edict and laugh in his face.

Judges like that don’t deserve our respect.


3 posted on 02/05/2016 5:52:38 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: marktwain
A Sparta man was found guilty of...possession of a loaded firearm within 450 feet of an occupied dwelling

Holy crap. How is that even enforceable unless one discharges said firearm? I hate MA but am glad I don't live in NJ.

4 posted on 02/05/2016 5:53:12 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Why do we give our hearts to the past? And why must we grow up so fast?)
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To: marktwain

New Jersey.
But there are some who wants their Governor to be President.

Shaking my head in wondering amazement.


5 posted on 02/05/2016 5:53:16 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: marktwain

TX went through its black bears 100+ years ago as the fat was coveted for frying and they liked the meat, too!


6 posted on 02/05/2016 5:54:43 AM PST by txhurl (I'm NO LONGER with the Nasty Canadian '16 (well, unless he wins ;))(and he did))
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To: marktwain

Fella should adhere to the admonition of Montana ranchers: Shoot, shovel and shut the hell up!


7 posted on 02/05/2016 5:55:28 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: goldstategop

"...The old man should tear up his edict and laugh in his face.
Judges like that don't deserve our respect..."

The 76 y.o. man most likely does not wish to be put in jail.
Contempt of court can be serious business and no joking matter.


8 posted on 02/05/2016 5:58:35 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: ManHunter

One of his so-called "neighbors" probably called the police.
Even though they all directly benefited from the man's actions.


9 posted on 02/05/2016 6:01:04 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: ManHunter
I think he tried to hide the bodies. That didn't work out too well.

"Robert C. Ehling brought part of the legal problem on himself by not reporting the shooting, and by what looked like an attempt to dispose of the bodies. A police officer, called by neighbors, testified that Ehling was dragging one of the juvenile bears' body toward a nearby ravine when the officer arrived."

10 posted on 02/05/2016 6:02:17 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve." - Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859))
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To: marktwain

This idiot judge is more dangerous than those bears were.

L


11 posted on 02/05/2016 6:04:47 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Tupelo
BTW, it was a municipal court. Our Governor, for all his flaws (and there are many more than you know) couldn't have had anything to do with this.

"The verdict and fines were levied against Robert C. Ehling by Municipal Court Judge James Devine, who called the 76-year-old man's actions on Oct. 10, 2014, the acts of "a vigilante, usurping the right of the state.""

12 posted on 02/05/2016 6:06:25 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve." - Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859))
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To: marktwain

He should get three rugs and a reward.


13 posted on 02/05/2016 6:09:03 AM PST by upsdriver (I support Sarah Palin.)
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To: Sooth2222

To show there’s no hard feelings he should leave a gift of an open jar of honey by his neighbor’s back door.


14 posted on 02/05/2016 6:10:11 AM PST by parcel_of_rogues
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To: marktwain

Same judge, Municipal Judge James Devine, had 9/11 memorial removed from courtroom.

http://911families.org/911-memorial-feared-as-weapon-moved-from-nj-court/


15 posted on 02/05/2016 6:13:26 AM PST by tlozo
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To: marktwain

So the question is, why did the bears associate this man’s house with food?


16 posted on 02/05/2016 6:35:37 AM PST by Romulus
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To: marktwain

As my late uncle would say, lots of good eating. Unless his neighbors heard the shots and called police, they’d already been skinned by morning and in his freezer. I don’t think he every ate store bought meat other than bacon. Nor did his wife know how to cook store meat other than bacon. He hunted his own meat.

My sister works at a resort near Dollywood, and they have bear problems, and DUMB people who don’t follow the rules about their trash. Thus bears root in it, and 1 customer was chased, one swiped at by a cub, both were put down as feral. They think the cubs are just so cute and will let their kids approach them. These are wild animals, and mom will attack if she thinks her cubs are in danger.


17 posted on 02/05/2016 6:38:46 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

You’d be welcome in State Income tax free TN, we have open carry.


18 posted on 02/05/2016 6:40:06 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: marktwain
$4,000 Fine may have been cheap.

If a bear gets inside the house, property damages might get expensive.

Injures or death to humans could be costly or worse.

Pets not so much value but hard to replace.

New Jersey hard to Shoot, Shovel and Shut up?

19 posted on 02/05/2016 6:42:46 AM PST by TYVets
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The man was apparently reported to police by a so-called “neighbor” and he was seen pulling the bears towards a ravine.


20 posted on 02/05/2016 6:45:39 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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