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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
At the moment when he was born, and his citizenship was established by a naturalisation statute enacted by Congress per their power to establish uniform rules of naturalisation.

Hate to tell you this, but the general run of English common law and the early interpretations prior to the Civil War firmly landed on the jus soli side of things - you were a NBC if you were born on US soil, either a state or a territory.

54 posted on 02/03/2016 10:25:20 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Lol, look up the English common law on what a naturally born citizen is.
An English subject who gave birth in Paris, gave birth to an English subject, not a Frenchman.

The Trump campaign is stupid and desperate.

He is only going to drive Cruz supporters to Rubio if Cruz ultimately is defeated.

Keep it up cultists.m


69 posted on 02/03/2016 10:30:57 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Btw, why doesn’t sue Cruz and test his theory Ted is not a citizen. He has standing.

The fact he doesn’t sue tells you all you need to know about what a phony issue this is.

A court would shove it down Trumps throat and humiliate him,


75 posted on 02/03/2016 10:34:52 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Yashcheritsiy
“prior to the Civil War firmly landed on the jus soli side of things - you were a NBC if you were born on US soil, either a state or a territory.”

Prior to the Civil War? Does this mean that all people, whatever their race were citizens, because of their birthplace? I believe the 14th Amendment was passed specifically to give citizenship to freed African Americans, who were born on US soil.

The framers of the 14th Amendment specifically stated during debate, and during its passage by the states, that this amendment would not give citizenship to children born in the US of foreign citizens.

All children born of an American parent overseas were considered citizens from birth (Natural Born), if they met the requirements of citizenship under US Law in effect at the time of their birth.

That being said, US Law was not met by Obama’s citizen mother at the time of his birth (she was not old enough under the law, and had not lived in the US the required number of years following her 15th birthday,to establish citizenship at birth), and hence he would have to go through a naturalization process to gain citizenship. Also remember that at the time of Obama’s birth the age of majority throughout the US was 21.

My understanding is that Ted Cruz's mother was old enough and met the requirements of US Law at the time of his birth. Hence citizenship was established at birth.

The problem is that despite the intent of the 14th Amendment's framers, and the legislative discussion at the time of its passage into law by the states, judges have interpreted the law to give citizenship to anyone born on US soil. So we have “anchor babies”.

With “anchor babies” who has decided that the parents, who are citizens of other countries, have the right to stay. NO ONE Has. That's the reason for the fight.

103 posted on 02/03/2016 11:16:30 AM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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