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I’ve changed my mind on the gay cake row. Here’s why
The Guardian ^ | 02/02/2016 | Peter Tatchell

Posted on 02/02/2016 8:11:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Like most gay and equality campaigners, I initially condemned the Christian-run Ashers Bakery in Belfast over its refusal to produce a cake with a pro-gay marriage slogan for a gay customer, Gareth Lee. I supported his legal claim against Ashers and the subsequent verdict -- the bakery was found guilty of discrimination last year. Now, two days before the case goes to appeal, I have changed my mind. Much as I wish to defend the gay community, I also want to defend freedom of conscience, expression and religion.

The saga began in 2014 when the bakery said it was not willing to ice a cake with the words "support gay marriage" and the logo of the equality group Queer Space, claiming the message was contrary to its Christian beliefs. This struck many of us as anti-gay discrimination based on religious-inspired homophobic prejudice. Ashers believes that the relationships of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people are wrong and should not be eligible for the status of marriage. They translated these beliefs into action and declined to make the cake. Ashers would have decorated a cake with a message celebrating traditional heterosexual marriage and promoting a Christian organisation. Surely this was an example of clear-cut anti-gay discrimination?

The ‘gay cake' ruling is a victory for equality in Northern Ireland

Gareth Lee's legal case against Ashers was backed by the Equality Commission of Northern Ireland. It argued that the bakery's actions breached Northern Ireland's Equality Act and Fair Employment and Treatment Order, which prohibit discrimination in the provision of goods, facilities and services on the respective grounds of sexual orientation and political opinion. Last May a Belfast court found Ashers guilty of discrimination on both grounds, ordering it to pay Lee £500 compensation.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bakery; gaycake; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexuality
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To: SeekAndFind

An extremely rare instance of a progressive glimpsing at the downside of their politics.


41 posted on 02/02/2016 5:47:57 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: V_TWIN

Jesus referred to Scripture of condemned homosexuals being destroyed by God in Sodom and Gomorrah.

This “Jesus never condemned Sodomites” rubbish is just that.


42 posted on 02/02/2016 5:54:10 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

-This “Jesus never condemned Sodomites” rubbish is just that-

Yep


43 posted on 02/03/2016 4:20:22 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: SeekAndFind
yet Jesus never once condemned homosexuality, and discrimination is not a Christian value.

What Bible is he reading:

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (Matthew 19:4-5)

For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications,...All these evil things come from within, and defile the man. (Mark 7:21-23)

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Matthew 7:23) \

More refutations by the grace of God.

44 posted on 02/03/2016 5:37:21 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Peter Tatchell is an LGBT activist who has campaigned for lowering the age of consent laws. IOW, he’s a pedophile activist.


45 posted on 02/13/2016 6:04:00 PM PST by mumblypeg (Reality is way more complicated than the internet. That's why I'm here.)
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