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To: FredZarguna

“So, are you saying that you won’t support the nominee unless it’s Trump? “

No, I’m saying the the level of vitriol from Cruz supporters (the the pro-Cruz bloggers) the past two months in order to brow-beat people into support him, will not be rewarded with some “kiss and make up” vote from me if he happened to be the nominee.

Going around calling people fake Christians, fake conservatives, closet liberals, cultists, and similar garbage just because they aren’t backing Cruz is not something anyone should be required to put up with.

” I believe Jim Robinson has already stated that anyone who takes that position is getting a ZOT. “

“Would you like to clarify your position so we can decide whether or not to ping him?”

Actually that isnt what he said, so I’ll advise you to not threaten me like that in the future. You arent going to hold a gun to my head and demand compliance like some sniveling thug.


251 posted on 01/31/2016 12:17:54 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik
Going around calling people fake Christians, fake conservatives, closet liberals, cultists, and similar garbage just because they aren't backing Cruz

That's not why you're being called those things. I am not, in fact, a Cruz supporter. The opposition to Trump is being raised because there is every reason to believe he's an opportunistic phony. He has never been a conservative before. Never. He has, for most of his career -- even when he was a Republican -- been a New York Republican. As a ex-New Yorker whose kids still live in NYC, I know what that means. Do you? [Hint: It means NOT conservative.]

Trump has said what he's said. Every other candidate has been asked to defend the record of his past statements. Cruz, Rubio, Bush have taken past positions which are not savory to conservative tastes. They have been savaged by various bloggers and media people for that. Yet when anyone points out The Donald's® past positions we are being told that we're hateful and "won't be forgiven."

Oh. OK.

It's not surprising that a mean spirited candidate would attract the same following. What is surprising is that positions which were heretofore anathema in conservative circles are now acceptable. And el Supremo has freely admitted that his healthcare position is "un-Republican" and he "doesn't care if it costs [him] votes."

Oh. OK. Un-Republican. [But he didn't say what we heard him say.]

is not something anyone should be required to put up with.

Politics aint beanbags. Put up with it, or GTFO.

Actually that isnt what he said,

Yeah. It is.

so I'll advise you to not threaten me like that in the future.

Or you'll do what?

You arent going to hold a gun to my head and demand compliance like some sniveling thug.

That's hilarious coming from a Trumpbot. I've been threatened with ZOT's by Trumpbots on more threads in the last month than in 16 previous years on FR combined.

And I have never ONCE written: "I won't vote for Trump if he's the nominee." Or "you won't be forgiven."

Trump is awful. But I've held my nose before -- I held my nose and voted for Bob Dole fer cryin' out loud. But what I will not do is allow members of a cult of personality to tell me that their maximum leader has not said the things that he's said, or that he said them -- in exactly the words quoted -- but didn't mean them, or that he meant them, and that's now what constitutes conservatism.

BS.

Conservatism isn't defined by what Humpty Trumpty believes today, this minute, and then something else tomorrow.

Finally, I expect Cruz people who say they won't support the nominee of a conservative party to be disciplined in some manner on a conservative site, and I expect that to be true of the supporters of other candidates as well. That's not a threat; that's a promise that you will be held to the same standards as everyone else, and do NOT get a pass just because your Messiah has arrived.

311 posted on 01/31/2016 1:18:26 PM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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