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To: fruser1

While I know the IRA were popular with my Celtic brothers in Boston I don’t think Americans would cotton to an IRA style American group.


142 posted on 01/27/2016 8:33:21 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

“don’t think Americans would cotton “

I never liked the IRA because they are socialists, however, colonial revolutionaries would be called terrorists if the british had won.

I like the colonials because they actually were fighting for freedom, as evidenced by the constitution. Irish, however, wanted socialism. To me this is an oxymoron - they want to be independently dependent. This is not freedom. They just wanted their own local home rule to have power and called it freedom. I believe that goes back to the Fenians in the karl marx era.

I think the boston sympathy lies solely on the anti-brit bit of the colonial cause. Per IRA, they only get the propaganda. I don’t know if you can still find “IRA jars” on the counters in some boston bars, but I doubt it.

IRA today is mostly just a bunch of smugglers who use “irish freedom” as a recruiting tool. To find the Irish who wanted real freedom, you’d probably have to go back to the days of William of orange.

Per the ranchers, I am sympathetic to their cause because I see the eco/gov cause intruding on my day to day life, just not to the scale at which they experience it.

So even though I’m not a fan of the IRA, the tactic of having a hard line in between your negotiators and mechanics is a good one, and one way where the ranchers failed in Oregon (which is why I bring it up).


164 posted on 01/27/2016 8:58:19 AM PST by fruser1
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