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To: Trumpinator

“don’t think Americans would cotton “

I never liked the IRA because they are socialists, however, colonial revolutionaries would be called terrorists if the british had won.

I like the colonials because they actually were fighting for freedom, as evidenced by the constitution. Irish, however, wanted socialism. To me this is an oxymoron - they want to be independently dependent. This is not freedom. They just wanted their own local home rule to have power and called it freedom. I believe that goes back to the Fenians in the karl marx era.

I think the boston sympathy lies solely on the anti-brit bit of the colonial cause. Per IRA, they only get the propaganda. I don’t know if you can still find “IRA jars” on the counters in some boston bars, but I doubt it.

IRA today is mostly just a bunch of smugglers who use “irish freedom” as a recruiting tool. To find the Irish who wanted real freedom, you’d probably have to go back to the days of William of orange.

Per the ranchers, I am sympathetic to their cause because I see the eco/gov cause intruding on my day to day life, just not to the scale at which they experience it.

So even though I’m not a fan of the IRA, the tactic of having a hard line in between your negotiators and mechanics is a good one, and one way where the ranchers failed in Oregon (which is why I bring it up).


164 posted on 01/27/2016 8:58:19 AM PST by fruser1
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To: fruser1
I never liked the IRA because they are socialists, however, colonial revolutionaries would be called terrorists if the british had won.

Terrorists target civilians to try and win via terror. Our Founding Fathers made sure to raise a standing army that fought in the prescribed civilized way on the field of battle - not withstanding an occasional Indian style ambush.

184 posted on 01/27/2016 9:11:15 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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