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1 posted on 01/25/2016 9:31:17 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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Unless we looked at the Cruz and Trump plans side by side we might have a hard time comparing the total impact. It’s like comparing apple seeds to orange peels sometimes, it seems.

I know who I think is the heir apparent, but I still wish this tastes great, less filling argument could be put in coherent terms.


2 posted on 01/25/2016 9:34:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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It’s pretty obvious both Trump and Cruz have changed their positions on immigration. I assume Cruz learned a hard lesson on this. I have no idea what Trump will actually do on this front.


3 posted on 01/25/2016 9:35:57 PM PST by DB
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Defiant Jeff Sessions on ‘Gang of Eight’: ‘Every Step of the Way, Ted Cruz Was on My Side’

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/19/defiant-jeff-sessions-on-gang-of-eight-every-step-of-the-way-ted-cruz-was-on-my-side/


4 posted on 01/25/2016 9:36:53 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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You do realize that at this exact same point in time, Trump was tweeting in support of granting amnesty, right? And that Jeff Sessions has publicly said that Cruz was standing with him on the Rubio bill, so that means Sessions was in agreement with Cruz’s tactics here?


5 posted on 01/25/2016 9:37:44 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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More proof of the sell out ...Beck and Perry confirm ... Go Trump


7 posted on 01/25/2016 9:38:20 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Trump is the only one who will secure our borders . Vote Trump)
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No amnesty. Granting amnesty will ENCOURAGE illegal aliens. Anyone who supports or promotes amnesty should be arrested.


8 posted on 01/25/2016 9:38:56 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more)
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Cruz lost me when he told an interviewer that we could "have a conversation" about what to do with the tens of millions of invaders currently colonizing our country - "after the border is secure."

I went and looked carefully at his immigration plan, and sure enough, it only mentions deporting criminal illegals.

Well, that's good, but not good enough, Ted. In fact, I think it's code for, "We're going to normalize/legalize those people some way."

11 posted on 01/25/2016 9:41:28 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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So, we can go back to 2013 for the candidates now?

Do we start with Trump’s single payer healthcare views, or his abortion views?


14 posted on 01/25/2016 9:42:46 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Trump talks about amnesty | CNN | Dana Bash | July 2015

Trump talks about amnesty | MSNBC | Morning Joe | July 2015

15 posted on 01/25/2016 9:43:30 PM PST by FreeReign
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There's no doubt this is still his plan and that of his donors. Plus the 500,000 additional H1-B visas.

The GOP has lied to us over and over, and only suckers would believe a GOP, Washington Insider, now. Cruz represents the elite establishment, and they have no intention of closing borders, etc. They are open borders, Cheap Labor Express, unfair trade deals, reducing wages and lifestyle of Americans to third world levels, and establishing a North American Union.

18 posted on 01/25/2016 9:49:43 PM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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My understanding of the amendment added to the gang of 8 bill was a poison pill by Cruz. He single handily killed the Rubio bill. He can’t say anything other than he wanted his amendment to pass with the bill or we would have gotten amnesty. His amendment was so destructive that rubio and the other 7 let it die. Now I know this is too complicated for your average burger flipper. They make it look as if he flip flopped, but he never did and single handily saved us from ruin.


44 posted on 01/25/2016 11:29:58 PM PST by chuckles
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