Posted on 01/25/2016 9:27:19 PM PST by CA Conservative
A super PAC supporting Ted Cruz is airing a new TV ad in Iowa that goes for the policy jugular against Donald Trump, equating his past statements on universal health care to positions held by President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
The ad, created by Keep the Promise I and shared first with NRO, warns of yet another big-government health care program: "TrumpCare."
"First there was HillaryCare. … Then there was ObamaCare," the narrator says, knitting together video footage of both Democrats arguing for "universal health care."
Then a still-shot of Trump appears, and the narrator intones: "We can't afford TrumpCare." The ad splices together portions of Trump's "60 Minutes" interview from September with Scott Pelley, in which Trump tells the CBS anchor, "Everybody has to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say" When Pelley presses him - "Universal healthcare?" - Trump responds, "I am going to take care of everybody."
"Who pays for it?" Pelley asks. "The government's gonna pay for it," Trump replies.
Is Ted Cruz getting rid of Medicaid? Because I hadn’t heard about that.
The ad, created by Keep the Promise I and shared first with NRO....
Bwahahahha. National RINOview.
I pasted the ENTIRE exchange between Trump and Pelley on the topic of health care. There is nothing else. You made the claim it was out of context. So back it up.
Well, you keep repeating the same drivel, so I have to keep correcting you. Stop saying stupid things and I won't have to clean up after you.
Now that I think about it, I can't afford health insurance and medicaid won't cover me. I haven't had health insurance for years.
You're not correcting anybody when your responses are entirely irrelevant to anything I say. You are delusional.
Medicaid does not cover everyone who cannot afford coverage on their own. I'd think anyone who followed the health care debate would know that on their own ,but apparently not.
Even with the Medicaid expansion under Obamacare, millions of people who still make too much to qualify, but not enough to afford insurance on their own. And then there's all the states that didn't even expand Medicaid, where the problem is worse.
So, Trump's promise to cover "anyone" does indeed go much further than a a Obamacare.
By the way, I assume that Trump is going to keep an individual.mandate, right? Otherwise, "everyone" won't covered unless the goverment really does pay for it, for everyone.
I didn’t think anyone was stupid enough to still think Trump is pushing single payer.
Sorry to those of you who are.
My apologies.
Perhaps Jim should set up a section for non-fully functional people.
Beautiful. Love the tag line too btw. Go Trump. Tttt
Let's see - it will save money, you can have your own plan, you can have your own doctor... Where have I heard that before??? Oh yeah, that's what they told us about Obamacare! But I guess we are supposed to believe it because it is Trump telling us.
Work on your reading comprehension. I didn't say Trump is pushing single-payer - I said he still believes in single payer, but he is not pushing it now for political reasons. If he were elected, I would not be surprised to see him go back to that position.
Yup, exactly. Too bad so many FReepers don’t get it, or have short memories.
Big Bob, you just don’t understand that there are folks here that get very,very upset if you say things like that. They think every little thing Ted Cruz or one of his PACs does is going to cause Donald Trump to turn tail back to New York. So I have adopted the policy that reality will set in soon enough and until then we can just play pretend.
Read that article again, and then you address the folks on the forum to this day that still claim he’s pushing single payer.
Can you point to any statement that he has made to indicate he does NOT believe in single-payer?? Not a statement that he doesn't believe it will work here right now, but that he believes as a matter of principle that the government should not be in charge of our healthcare??? Because I have never seen any such statement from him.
These are Cruz Christian values, man of faith.
Trump has clearly stated that he supports a free market solution, including reforms such allowing interstate purchase of insurance. All that he says he’d leave in place in Medicaid and Medicare—and Cruz hasn’t said he’d dismantle Medicaid or Medicare.
You did see that this came from a PAC and not the Cruz campaign, right? So why attack Cruz's faith over this?
Here is the issue. There are two schools of thought.
1. Repeal Obamacare, period.
2. Repeal and Replace Obamacare.
The problem with #1 is very simple. Once an Entitlement is enacted, it is never repealed. As I have asked on this Forum numerous times, what Entitlement just went away without a whimper?
No Democrats rioting in the Streets, no Media targeting the Evil purveyors who passed such a thing, no end to Life as we know it, no Lawsuits settled by Liberal Judges. It has never happened because it never can and it never will.
You can “adjust” and “revise” Entitlements, just as the so called “Full” Retirement date of Social Security was changed from 65 to 67, but it will never be eliminated. Notice how the early Retirement age of 62 wasn’t touched? Wonder why? LOL
Tweaking an existing Government Entitlement is the only thing any Politician who hopes to win Reelection can accomplish, and even that is an uphill battle.
This whole Single Payer argument died when Medicare was established, but certain people just don’t want to admit it.
It stares them in the face every day, and many who despise the concept of Single Payer are fat and happy Medicare Beneficiaries, especially ones with the no Premium Supplemental Plans that take care of everything. Doesn’t matter if you paid into it, it is an Entitlement that returns much more to the Beneficiaries (if they live that long) than they ever paid into it.
I am a Cruz guy but I have yet to hear what will happen if he manages to get rid of Obamacare without a plan to take care of the People who will lose their Healthcare Coverage.
I will have to research it and see.
You can’t just “disappear” Obamacare to the Cornfield like Billy Mummy did to people he didn’t like on the Twilight Zone.
A Politician’s promises and a Politician’s accomplishments when in Office are two different things. We will not know a thing about any of our Candidate choices until one of them attains the Office they seek. Until we defeat the DemoncRat challenger in the General, everything is speculation.
Jut my $.02, your Mileage may vary.
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