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Why supporting Donald Trump is not a betrayal of "conservatism."
vanity | 1/25/2016 | myself

Posted on 01/25/2016 6:39:44 AM PST by AndyJackson

Today we learn from Jim Robinson of a movement afoot to proselytize among the so-called conservatives here to abandon Free Republic.

This is but another effort by the supporters of Ted Cruz to squirm out of the Trump's closing in on the Republican nomination, and, perhaps the presidency. If the close is forestalled, and they SCREAM loudly enough in block capital letter that TRUMPIZOIDS ARE INSANE they will see Trump for what he is and the nomination will go to Cruz. They even project idiocies such as Trump's supporters would overlook it if he killed 500 puppies on TV with a hammer, a projection asking for an analysis that I leave to the clinical psychologists.

While Trump has provoked Bill and Hillary into cornering Hillary exactly where Trump wants her, we learn from Cruz's supporters that Trump did not do this using "pure conservative" tactics, which means, in Brent Bozell's view, Trump is a charlatan. He doesn't walk with "us."

Whatever kind of charlatan Trump may be, at the end of the day, when he promises his investors he will build a building, he builds the building, which is a lot more than the present government establishment ever does. As one of my sometimes libertarian, sometimes Democrat inclined friends and colleagues points out, Trump completed the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas on the ruins of a lot of former landmark, but now decayed casinos, and he did it at a time when Las Vegas and many of its other developers, famously, went bust around 2008 leaving a zone of bleak ruin in their wake. It is a constant lament among Trump's critics that he has holds his bankers and investors at bay, "stiffing them" while he finishes a project, sells the units, and operates the facility. From this we should conclude not that he is a shyster, the evidence for which would be a deed to swampland or a demolished crater, but the consummate project manager getting done what he set out to do, probably the highest moral standard a real estate operator can demonstrate, e.g. deliver the project he promised to deliver, come unions, the mob, city council members and the ivy-league trained mob-in-business-suits, the NY bankers and their legal counsel. Presumably, at the end of the day the banks all got paid, else the first Trump project liquidated at pennies on the dollar would have been the last Trump project. Instead his bankers continue to lend money for his projects.

The fundamental error made by those who walk with Brent Bozell is that they violate an old military principle that attacking a well-defended position by constantly on the same axis comes at a very high cost. Fortifications are built exactly because they are easy to defend and hard to attack. And conservatives have been attacking the liberal fortification along the same tired old line of attack for fifty years now. The Art of the Deal is just another version of Alinsky's Rules for radicals. The constant thrum of the conservative drum has gotten to be a drag [Alinky's Rule #7]. We know the battle plan on both sides of this argument, but conservatives insist on a civil war re-enactor's exactitude towards authentic paraphernalia, but they never go home except to retreat and refight the same battle another day with, they hope, a different outcome. The notion that the liberal establishment will fall if only we get a true conservative to attack them on true conservative principles is fantasy. Grant struggled in his campaign against Lee's Army of Virginia to get them out of their fortifications in the Wilderness and Petersburg. The costs of doing so earned him the opprobrious title of "butcher." But, eventually Lee was forced out of his defensive position and Grant out-maneuvered Lee's army forcing the surrender. Sherman's flanking move through Georgia was another part of this same maneuver.

As an example, the "non-conservative" Trump destroyed political correctness overnight after "true conservatives," spent decades wailing on every street-corner in the nation, even writing articles for publication in the National Review. Trump made the other side live up to his own rules [Alinsky's Rule #4]. Killing conservatives was the whole point of political correctness. What Trump pointed out was that political correctness was also killing those whom it was designed to benefit by making common cause with the injured parties, the majority of whom are not traditional supporters of the conservative cause.

In response to Trump's theme of competence conservatives have likewise screamed foul. They have become the flip side of the liberals believing "right- thinking" in both senses is far more important than right doing. Some 97% of the decisions people make are correctly made on the basis of "common sense" or at least the technical experience of trades, crafts and practitioners. That itself is common sense - the human species survived and evolved large brains not just for the elite, but for everyone because most of the time individuals of the species have a higher probability of survival by using his brain to adapt to the unique circumstances of each case. The argument against centralized thinking was the conservative case against the liberals. Now they demand the same of themselves. And in those cases where centralized direction is needed, wisdom is also needed underscored by the Robert's clever smart-aleck decision that Obamacare is a tax.

In short, Trump has triumphed by side-stepping the tired liberal/conservative attack / counter-attack by showing up the shortcomings of both sides, approaching from a different angle altogether. Whatever the 22 participants in the National Review attack on Trump mean by conservatism, is has unfortunately become the mirror reflection of the liberalism that it seeks to undo. And liberalism has built itself up as the antidote to the conservatism that sees itself as the antidote to liberalism. Each assails the other's stronghold and accomplishes nothing while marauders sack the undefended ground in between.

The fundamental problem, of course, is that conservatism is built on the political foundation of the Republican Party, and, with that party's devolution into crony capitalism, what conservatives attempt to defend is built on a "dismal" plague infested miasma. Defend the ramparts of your castle all you want. You are defending ground no one wants to occupy and the political battles will be fought elsewhere. If conservatives want to be relevant. they need to move to solid ground.

In supporting Trump have we abandoned conservatism? Well, define conservatism. If it is old go to church on Sunday small town America, that is dead. High-speed internet, Amazon, NETFLIX and FEDEX are now regarded as daily necessities in the most remote parts of America and anyone curious avails himself of these connections to the broader world. The doctor is not going to do house calls. Modern medical procedures are so complex and so dependent upon a vast healthcare system, that it sweeps up everyone. We decry government involvement, but is a "free market" solution available? Those who would hope so do have a burden of proof.

What principals are we actually defending. Now, I think that if conservatism is anything it is the application of our great heritages of British common law, enlightenment inspired science and reasoning, and Judeo-Christian principles of morality in how we treat our fellow humans. That conservatism could be very much alive. That is the conservatism of William F. Buckley. But his doctrinaire heirs at NR have abandoned that view.

Another recent post The Ten Conservative Principles of Russell Kirk which are more fully described by discusses this at much greater length. Russell Kirk himself. Kirk himself states that "conservatism is the negation of ideology: it is a state of mind, a type of character, a way of looking at the civil social order."

While a discussion of the full ten principles would be tedious here, let me emphasize two:

Principle 5 Conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety. They feel affection for the proliferating intricacy of long-established social institutions and modes of life, as distinguished from the narrowing uniformity and deadening egalitarianism of radical systems [consult a dictionary. Doctrinaire conservatives are "radical"]. ... Society requires honest and able leadership ; and if natural and institutional differences are destroyed, presently some tyrant or host of squalid oligarchs will create new forms of inequality.

Principle 10: The thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society ...Therefore the intelligent conservative endeavors to reconcile the claims of Permanence and the claims of Progression. .... The conservative, in short, favors reasoned and temperate progress; he is opposed to the cult of Progress, whose votaries believe that everything new necessarily is superior to everything old. ..Change is essential to the body social, the conservative reasons, just as it is essential to the human body. A body that has ceased to renew itself has begun to die. But if that body is to be vigorous, the change must occur in a regular manner, harmonizing with the form and nature of that body; otherwise change produces a monstrous growth, a cancer, which devours its host. The conservative takes care that nothing in a society should ever be wholly old, and that nothing should ever be wholly new. This is the means of the conservation of a nation, quite as it is the means of conservation of a living organism. Just how much change a society requires, and what sort of change, depend upon the circumstances of an age and a nation.

Trump's genius is framing issues in ways that reflects the problems faced by voters in their daily lives and not the problems argued by inside-the-beltway think-tanks on which the conservative establishment has made itself a useless appendage. If we believe in the vitality of the civil order, in right-acting, in solving problems that face the nation, supporting Trump is not inconsistent with conservatism. Sure, we must hold Trump to our leading principles, and we will. But we can do that without abandoning the field to Hillary.


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To: AndyJackson
All of this division is not caused by Donald Trump, but rather it is all caused by "Ted Cruz for President".

Virtually EVERY Conservative here wholeheartedly supports Senator Ted Cruz.

Virtually EVERY Conservative here would wholeheartedly support Senator Ted Cruz as the Senate Majority Leader.

Within these ranks, however, there are an unknown number of Conservatives who believe that, due to:

a) the unknown citizenship status of his father, and

b) Ted Cruz's birth and having spent the first four years of his life in Canada before his family emigrated to the United States,

Cruz is not eligible and "Ted Cruz for President" is an AUTOMATIC disqualifier and question mark for all things "Ted Cruz".

It really doesn't matter how wonderful Ted Cruz is or might be in any other political office or work environment.

Ted Cruz, like obama, can't legally be President. Neither can Rubio nor Jindal.

Therefore, "Ted Cruz for President" is an irresistible wedge being used to, or is at least functioning to, split, divide and perhaps conquer.

Understanding who or what pushed Ted Cruz into the race for POTUS would be very helpful on many levels, but is probably not knowable on my plebeian observer level.

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places."
I'm still learning how to observe what happens on the surface at the "see" level, as I'm looking for clues about what's happening below the surface and about what's coming next.

In this primary election, I observe that "Ted Cruz for POTUS" is functioning as a wedge that is splitting a house against itself. Curious.

If we honor our Founding Fathers, as we're to do, we wouldn't be fighting against ourselves as a house divided.

We would instead be strengthening its foundation against the coming storm.

61 posted on 01/25/2016 8:58:57 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: digger48

I went to the link.

It looks like I thought it might, Cruzers are a bitter lot, willing to burn it all down, including FR, if they aren’t able to shut down opposing viewpoints.

As a former Walker supporter I’ve seen this go on for more than a year now.

The incessant “Cruz or Lose” graphics of last winter/spring have now turned into “Crus and Lose” and they are beyond bitter.

Cruz attracts a strange lot.


62 posted on 01/25/2016 9:25:11 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: AndyJackson

63 posted on 01/25/2016 9:48:21 AM PST by Marie (TRUMP TRUTH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg)
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To: 4rcane
I agree. Open borders is their goal.

I have noticed a pattern among alleged Cruz supporters who are constantly posting not so much in support of Cruz but against Trump. Also some obsessively attack those who take a strong stand against illegal aliens and undesirable immigrants. Their attacks include fabrications.

64 posted on 01/25/2016 10:05:33 AM PST by Jane Austen (Marco Rubio is the White Obama and beholden to special interests.)
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To: don-o
Perhaps if you will clarify or expand on that mind boggling statement [that the fundamental problem, of course, is that conservatism is built on the political foundation of the Republican Party].

It is clear enough - has anyone ever made a serious, much less successful effort to run as a conservative within the Democratic party?

65 posted on 01/25/2016 10:24:21 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: roamer_1
hooey

Succint. Oh, and eloquent!

66 posted on 01/25/2016 10:25:47 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Elderberry
You chose Variety and [the tension between continuity and] Change to highlight Conservative Principals? Interesting choices

I did that because many of the self-appointed overlords of conservatism will claim they abide by [pay lip-service to] the other tenants of conservatism. But Kirk maintained that there were ten tenants, not three or five or seven, and the overlooked tenants demand a richness to the intellectual debate which in their absence creates a desert bare of human habitation.

67 posted on 01/25/2016 10:29:58 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: pookie18

So that’s where that infamous quote came from. Luntz the GOPe dunce.


68 posted on 01/25/2016 10:33:55 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The quote was from Trump & Luntz did a poll on it.


69 posted on 01/25/2016 10:37:43 AM PST by pookie18 (10 months until the general election...)
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To: AndyJackson

You got the cart before the horse.


70 posted on 01/25/2016 10:48:58 AM PST by don-o (Where did my tagline go?)
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To: don-o
You got the cart before the horse

Which cart and which horse?

71 posted on 01/25/2016 11:43:05 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Trumpism is inevitable after the refusal of either party to serve the interests of most Americans.”

Brilliant!


72 posted on 01/25/2016 11:46:24 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: gbscott1954

thank you for your post.

I moved to a rural small town where everything but churches close on Sunday. When I moved here I was asked how I vote and where I go to church. I must’ve answered right because I was welcomed!


73 posted on 01/25/2016 11:48:38 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: AndyJackson

“The conservative takes care that nothing in a society should ever be wholly old, and that nothing should ever be wholly new. This is the means of the conservation of a nation, quite as it is the means of conservation of a living organism. Just how much change a society requires, and what sort of change, depend upon the circumstances of an age and a nation.”

Interesting. I have been trying to figure out the derivation of the term from ‘conserve’. This sums it up.


74 posted on 01/25/2016 11:50:36 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall
I have been trying to figure out the derivation of the term from 'conserve'

So most would believe that conservation includes preserving the most beautiful vistas and natural habitats for the enjoyment of the citizenry. Voila the National Park system. Yet, some so-called conservatives decry federal ownership and preservation of our most beautiful places as overstepping the constitutional bounds of the powers of the federal government under the constitution.

Yet, even the federal government is challenged to protect the Washington mall against the predations of those who would erect a museum, at public expense, to sanctify and glorify another special interest.

75 posted on 01/25/2016 12:00:04 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
Thank you, AndyJackson. I included it in today's first Make America Great Again ping to its many subscribers. The link is about 1/3 of the way from the top.
76 posted on 01/25/2016 12:05:19 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Any discernably conservative impulse in the party would have avoided this fate.

BULLSEYE!

77 posted on 01/25/2016 12:19:07 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks.


78 posted on 01/25/2016 12:28:04 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Albion Wilde

PS, please add me to your ping list.


79 posted on 01/25/2016 12:30:17 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
Welcome to the Make America Great Again pinglist, AndyJackson!
80 posted on 01/25/2016 12:31:53 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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