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To: MamaTexan

Those straws you are grasping at won’t help you float.


87 posted on 01/24/2016 6:39:08 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine; MamaTexan

Valentine:

Forget your rhetoric, cite something specific.


97 posted on 01/24/2016 10:04:20 PM PST by Ray76
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To: John Valentine
Those straws you are grasping at won't help you float.

LOL! You're definitely trying to 'float' something, but it's too brown and smelly to be straw.

IF, as you contend, Vattel asserted that everyone born outside the country of a citizen (or citizens) was natural born, there would have been no logical reason for him to have made the exception concerning children of diplomats or military members....but he did -

§217. Children born in the armies of the state.
For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.

Children born outside the country to citizens who are NOT in the military or NOT in the diplomatic service may receive their citizenship through decent, but it is not the pure and unquestionable citizenship required to be natural born.

It is a form of naturalization.

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As it is plain you are not seeking knowledge but merely attempting to reaffirm your own bias, reply if you wish.

I won't respond again.

105 posted on 01/25/2016 4:01:08 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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