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To: Perdogg

Oh, G-D here we go again.

I want him to go to Washington and work with the people BUT not beholding to the lobbies.

ONce again, I don’t understand the point. OF course, if it’s in the Blaze it’s BS.

We have much to do folks. Much to do. We need to re-invent the establishment in Washington.

Let me give you one example.

CAn you imagine what the first budget will be like that Trump sends to Congress? It will probably be the very first time a president sends a budget that will be so lean, the “establishment” won’t know what to do with it. It will challenge them.

IN short, I see Trump making the “establishment” his establishment.


6 posted on 01/23/2016 5:37:24 AM PST by nikos1121 (December 25, 2016 will be the merriest Christmas of all for me.)
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To: nikos1121
Amen: Trump making the “establishment” his establishment.

This is why the Trump Haters are going Ape posting fecal matter posing as news with their own titles.

12 posted on 01/23/2016 5:42:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Check Trumphaters with kiryandil to see if they have ever contributed to Free Republic.)
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To: nikos1121

It has to wrong since it doesn’t comport with your thinking - right?


13 posted on 01/23/2016 5:42:14 AM PST by Perdogg (Senator Ted Cruz - President 2016)
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To: nikos1121

The Donald won’t be talking to the lobbies.

He will be talking to the people now beholden to the lobbies, and part of the deal shall be to wean these people OFF their dependence on the lobbyists, and have them get in some kind of 12-step program, much like Alcoholics Anonymous. THEN The Donald will present them with his deal, and work from there.

The Donald is altogether contemptuous of any and all lobbies, and has made his distaste known to anybody who bothers to look. But he will use them, and make them his beotch.

And they will end up liking it. Can you imagine the synergy then?


22 posted on 01/23/2016 5:52:01 AM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: nikos1121

If you think Trump is going to reduce the size of government and reduce spending, you’re blissfully unaware.

I’m disappointed that so many FReepers get taken by a populist. I thought folks here were smarter than that.

I am not directing that at you, I’m just commenting in general out of frustration.

As an Albertan, I need a place I may have to move to. Not near as many people value freedom and their rights like my southern neighbours. I see people making a big mistake and it’s highly concerning.

Let’s put our faith and hope in God, and pray freedom gets restored.


32 posted on 01/23/2016 6:04:36 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: nikos1121

Exactly.

One Cruz supporter posted to me, “Our goal should be to give them nothing, ever.”

Really? What if you can save $20 by allowing $1 of pork?

No one will obliterate corruption in DC overnight. If Cruz tries that, he will be in trench warfare. In the end, our national debt will be greater than if a REAL deal-maker gets in, stares them down on shutodwn threats, and lets them keep a few crumbs while saving us trillions.


36 posted on 01/23/2016 6:13:00 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: nikos1121

I’ve been thinking about that budget too. He’ll send one with CUTS (not slowed growth). Then figure out which one the Dem’s simply can’t abide and there’s your fulcrum for a long term budget deal. Not like our GOP leaders that are so afraid of the press they can’t get a single thing - ever - unless the lobbyist for the matter is paying the Dems too. They will make deals and not just have Mexican standoffs because they’re afraid of the press. Trump has proven to be immune to the press - he’ll take the heat for everyone.


37 posted on 01/23/2016 6:13:43 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: nikos1121

“...IN short, I see Trump making the “establishment” his establishment...”

Hey - whatever it takes to rationalize it to yourself, right?

I do not believe Trump will be a complete disaster AND I understand that negotiations are two-way streets.

But being reasonable and prudent, I expect the following: The dems will absolutely dig-in on any of their pet issues and can be fully expected to balk at Trumps immigration and border security agenda.

Can we at least agree on that *absolutely* reasonable expectation?

Now, Trump will have to work *with* congress as they are a co-equal branch of govt. Nothing becomes law until a bill lands on Trumps desk. No Bill will land on his desk until it escapes the committee tar-pit and passes both houses.

To get anything done, Trump will need bi-partisan support. There will be give and take. So here’s the multi-trillion dollar question that will impact you, me and generations to come: Has Trump said what, if anything, is *absolutely* off the negotiating table? If the dems balk on his agenda (and they most certainly will), what would Trump be willing to give up to get that deal done? What rights and principles would he allow (further) infringement upon, by legislation and/or executive policy? Assault rifle ban? Right to life? Personal property? Fairness doctrine? More “NYC-Values” justices like Sotomayor/Kagen for SCOTUS? The next term will see one to *three* justices replaced due to retirement/death - and those are for bloody *life* terms), etc...

I’d love to hear his list of things he will adamantly keep *well* off the table. My fear is that it is probably a darned *tiny* list. And not a single Trump supporter can say for sure because Trump sure hasn’t. All you have so far is a “gut feeling”. Should we trust the “gut feeling” of Trump’s “Cult of Personality”?


43 posted on 01/23/2016 6:23:55 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: nikos1121

>>In short, I see Trump making the “establishment”his establishment.<<

Why not? Trump’s political philosophy is a blank canvas. You can paint anything you want on it.

Just don’t be too disappointed if it turns out he has other ideas.

This is so discouraging. It’s clear evidence that Obama was not a one-off, but rather that his election was a sign that our country has deteriorated to the point that it’s beyond saving. Now we get to elect our own demagogue, a man who says what people want to hear and they believe him despite his recent past. No different than Obama, just elected by a different bunch of people also willing to believe in Hope and Change.


78 posted on 01/23/2016 10:03:18 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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