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To: 5thGenTexan

This is DISHONEST. The America We Deserve was published in 2000. FIFTEEN & SUM-ODD YEARS AGO.

Your quote says
1 That abortion should be banned at some point- with exceptions for rape, incest, & the life of the mother.
2 IN *2011*, That he told CBN that he had CHANGED HIS MIND **BUT** The America We Deserve was published in **2000**.

And you’re showing a source date of 2015. (No wonder I haven’t seen it. It’s PBS.) This happened in 2011.

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Also dishonest- or at least, disingenuous. ONLY **IF** THE BORDER IS SECURE & ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION **HAS STOPPED**. That’s a big ‘’if’’.

Ted Cruz’s position (No, I don’t have a link, but I saw one just a few hours ag- so I can get one. It was a TV interview) is that we should FIRST SECURE THE BORDER- THEN, WE **CAN TALK ABOUT** WHAT TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY HERE. Senator Cruz is real good at talking & putting on grand, melodramatic displays. What does he have to show for all that? Seriously.

I believe it was his amendment to the Gang of Eight bill where he proposed to MAKE THEM LEGAL, just not give them citizenship- DEFACTO AMNESTY.

This why you have no credibility. You’re not honest. And neither is your candidate.


92 posted on 01/21/2016 2:18:58 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: KGeorge

Re-read the article. The PBS June 2015 show sources the abortion quote you list as #1 to a January Bloomberg News interview. Since the year is not present in that reference, it is implied to be the same year as the show, 2015. Is Bloomberg News lying, too? Note you had to drop the “January” from that quote, thereby misquoting me, to attempt to make your point.

It’s also pretty naive to think a wall will stop all crossers. It will slow them down significantly, but giving amnesty to illegals found in the country after it’s built will become a legal quagmire where illegals caught after will clog up the system claiming “they were here before, but can’t prove it since they were living in the shadows”. No matter the timing, amnesty is amnesty, and any amnesty is bad.

But maybe some more name calling and insulting will help sway me.


93 posted on 01/21/2016 2:42:11 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: KGeorge
I believe it was his amendment to the Gang of Eight bill where he proposed to MAKE THEM LEGAL, just not give them citizenship- DEFACTO AMNESTY.

Please, spare us your indignation. This was all discussed and laid out on the square in another thread.

Cruz's amendment was a parliamentary ploy that unmasked what the 'Rats really wanted with their G8 "compromise" legislation. Cruz gave them what they said they wanted in his amendment -- only without citizenship. The 'Rats immediately turned around and blew chunks on it, whereby Cruz proved that what they really wanted was citizenship right NOW for millions and millions of illegals.

Cruz was not trying to sell out America or U.S. citizenship with his amendment; he was wrestling with the 'Rats to expose their core issue, which they'd kept hidden. The offer of the amendment scored a fall, exposed the 'Rats politically and ended that particular push to score citizenship for their millions of border-jumpers.

109 posted on 01/21/2016 3:14:16 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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