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Cruz: Trump supports amnesty
Washington Examiner ^ | 1/21/16 | Ariel Cohen

Posted on 01/21/2016 10:09:24 AM PST by Isara

Sen. Ted Cruz on Thursday called out Donald Trump for previously supporting immigration amnesty in 2013, back when Cruz was fighting against the Gang of Eight amnesty bill.

"Congress must protect our borders first. Amnesty should be done only if the order is secure and illegal immigration has stopped," Trump tweeted in August 2013, expressing a more lenient stance on immigration than he does on the campaign trail today.

"Trump SUPPORTS amnesty. Read his 2013 tweet - while I was leading the fight to defeat Rubio Gang of 8 amnesty. #Truth" Cruz said in his retweet of Trump's words.

Trump SUPPORTS amnesty. Read his 2013 tweet--while I was leading the fight to defeat Rubio Gang of 8 amnesty. #Truth https://t.co/AMVoRb0xob

- Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) January 21, 2016

Both Trump and Cruz have gained significant support amongst evangelical and conservative voters in Iowa due to their firm stances on halting illegal immigration. With less than two weeks until the Iowa caucus, Cruz and Trump are virtually tied in the state, and Cruz trails Trump by just 1.5 percent in an average of polls. Cruz leads Trump in the Washington Examiner's presidential power rankings.

Cruz, a longtime opponent of immigration reform in the Senate and on the campaign trail, has often called out Trump for being new to his conservative views of immigration. Since launching his primary campaign, Trump has vowed to build a wall between Mexico and the United States to keep out "rapists" and criminals if elected.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: amnesty; canadian; cruz; cruz4islam; ineligible; larazacruz; tcruz; tedcruz; trump; trump4amnesty; trumpforamnesty
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Donald J. Trump:

Congress must protect our borders first. Amnesty should be done only if the border is secure and illegal immigration has stopped.

11:08 AM - 29 Aug 2013


1 posted on 01/21/2016 10:09:24 AM PST by Isara
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To: Isara

That is old news, that is like 100 years ago in Trump years. /sarc


2 posted on 01/21/2016 10:10:44 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Cruz or Lose. Trump is a progressive populist liberal.)
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To: Isara

Since when?


3 posted on 01/21/2016 10:10:52 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel ("God only is my Rock and my Salvation; He is my Defence." (Psa 62:2))
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To: justlittleoleme

Don’t you know that only whatever he says next is true


4 posted on 01/21/2016 10:12:04 AM PST by almcbean
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To: Isara

I’d say that was an argument against amnesty that Congress was considering. You know - like don’t even consider amnesty if you can’t protect the border and stop illegal immigration.


5 posted on 01/21/2016 10:12:56 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Isara
Cruz is stretching all he can. He is a real piece of crap.

Trump for President.

6 posted on 01/21/2016 10:13:14 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Isara

Good reminder. Thanks.


7 posted on 01/21/2016 10:13:26 AM PST by FourPeas (Chocolate, sugar and lots of caffeine. Hard to beat that.)
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To: Isara

This will hurt Trump. Another flip-flop./sar


8 posted on 01/21/2016 10:13:35 AM PST by Rennes Templar (I'm pro gun control: keep your guns under your control at all times.)
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To: Isara

By the literal definition of the term, ALL of today’s polititians on both sides, support some form of ‘Amnesty’ in certain situations. I have come to accept this as fact.


9 posted on 01/21/2016 10:13:40 AM PST by lee martell
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Since July.


10 posted on 01/21/2016 10:13:47 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Isara
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11 posted on 01/21/2016 10:13:54 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Cruz or Lose. Trump is a progressive populist liberal.)
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To: Isara
Hit him hard with the truth, Ted.


12 posted on 01/21/2016 10:15:28 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Isara

So why would Trump want to “EXPIDITE” processing the 11 million illegals to get them back? Why would Trump grant them amnesty and cut in line in front of people who want to enter the US legally?


13 posted on 01/21/2016 10:16:21 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Duchess47

I agree. This is a major stretch.


14 posted on 01/21/2016 10:17:44 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Isara

“Congress must protect our borders first. Amnesty should be done only if the order is secure and illegal immigration has stopped”

So?

This is perfectly acceptable. Even if it isn’t, the argument against it is soooo far down the line..

If the wall gets built, the illegal immigration from Mexico is stopped and the drug traffic is drastically reduced I would be dancing in the streets.

THEN we can talk about Trump’s deportation or (as Cruz prefers) attrition by deporting only people arrested from crimes and we can talk about Trumps allowing people back in if legal and with proven records of good citizens, or as Cruz prefers, not at all. But that is so far down the line I don’t consider it an issue right now.

Prove that a wall (Trump) or a fence (Cruz) can be successfully built and completed FIRST!


15 posted on 01/21/2016 10:20:57 AM PST by Toughluck_freeper
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To: Isara

Given that Ted Cruz and open borders Glenn Beck will be spooning in a church in Iowa, just shows that Cruz is not serious on immigration. I hope Cruz enjoys the magic underwear.


16 posted on 01/21/2016 10:21:47 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Trumpbots Vs. Cruznadians - the struggle is real.)
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To: Isara
Cruz is defining the terms and that's not what Trump has said.

Trump said they have to go back and come in legally. In other words, there is no punishment. If you come in legally, by law, you can eventually obtain citizenship through the process. You can't treat one group of legal immigrants differently from another. There is no such law.

17 posted on 01/21/2016 10:22:00 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Hit him hard with the truth, Ted.

Just remember to properly disclose things this time and make sure your open borders surrogate Glenn Beck doesn't use fake tweets to justify an attack.

18 posted on 01/21/2016 10:22:48 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Trumpbots Vs. Cruznadians - the struggle is real.)
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To: Isara; All

Ted Cruz on his support for legalization of illegals, which he now lies about never supporting. All quotes with sources can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3372213/posts

1) “And I’d like to make a final point to those advocacy groups that are very engaged in this issue and rightly concerned about addressing our immigration system, and in particular about addressing the situation for the 11 million who are currently in the shadows. If this amendment is adopted to the current bill the effect would be that those 11 million under this current bill would still be eligible for RPI status. [Registered Provisional Immigrant] They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed under the terms of the bill they would be eligible for LPR status as well [Lawful Permanent Resident], so that they are out of the shadows, which the proponents of this bill repeatedly point to as their principle objective — to provide a legal status for those who are here illlegally to be out of the shadows. This amendment would allow that to happen.

And a second point to those advocacy groups that are so passionately engaged. In my view if this committee rejects this amendment, and I think everyone here views it as quite likely this committee will choose to reject this amendment, in my view that decision will make it much, much more likely that this entire bill will fail in the House of Representantives. I don’t want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass, and so I would urge people of good faith on both sides of the aisle, if the objective is to pass common sense immigration reform that secures the borders, that improves legal immigration, and that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows, then we should look for areas of bipartisan agreement and compromise to come together and this amendment —I believe if this amendment were to pass the chances of this bill passing into law would increase dramatically, and so I would urge the committee to give it full consideration and to adopt the amendment.”

2)”The American people are overwhelmingly unified that, number one, we need to secure the border,” he added. “And, number two, any bill that this body passes should have border security first and then legalization, not the other way around.”

3) From the Texas Tribune in September of 2013:

“What Mr. Cruz has tried to articulate in both word and deed is a middle ground. It got no support from Democrats in Washington, but it goes further than many on the far right want to go by offering leniency to undocumented immigrants here already...

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.”

4) In March 2015

“Asked by msnbc about where Cruz stands now on legalization, campaign spokeswoman Catherine Frazier said that the senator has been “consistent” and confirmed that the views he expressed in the Tribune had not changed. She described his amendment to the Senate “gang of eight” bill as an effort “to improve a very bad bill” that he ultimately opposed.

While Frazier said Cruz fought the bill’s path to citizenship because it “flies in the face of the rule of law,” she declined to apply the same label when asked about legal status in the right circumstances.

“I think his main priority is dealing with the border security component and making sure that we know who is coming into the country and making sure that we have control over who is coming into the country and then we can deal with what to do with the people who are already here,” she said.

6) Chuck Todd Interview after March 2015

CHUCK TODD: You still didn’t say what you’d do with the 11 million.

TED CRUZ: Well, my view is first, we secure the borders and solve the problem of illegal immigration. And then I think we can have a conversation about what to do about the people who remain here. I don’t think the American people will accept any solution until we demonstrate step number one, we can secure the border.

CHUCK TODD: So anything’s on the table? Potentially deportation or not deportation, but anything’s on the table for the 11 million—

TED CRUZ: I think we should secure the border and then have a conversation at that point. Stop using the Washington approach of I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. The American people aren’t going for it.

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19 posted on 01/21/2016 10:23:01 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: almcbean
RE:”Don't you know that only whatever he says next is true”

Yep, only GOPe remember anything he said anytime in the past contradicting what he says now.

20 posted on 01/21/2016 10:23:15 AM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait"')
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